iamnothere 5 minutes ago

Everyone’s missing the big picture here which is that this targeting of infrastructure providers as “terrorists” is unprecedented and concerning: https://decode39.com/16319/autistici-inventati-case-sets-a-n...

If a radical group sets up shop on I2P, are I2P users and devs now terrorists? This is a problem.

What about Monero users/devs? Veilid? Tox? Signal?

Avicebron 43 minutes ago

I clicked around a bit, read the manifesto, I still have no idea what these people do. I guess they claim to have been around for a while, but a bunch of the links don't work and the manifesto has definitely been updated to reflect 2026 opinions.

What is this?

  • pietervdvn 39 minutes ago

    They host blogs and email used by many activists.

  • napolux 38 minutes ago

    Autistici/Inventati is an Italian collective, active since around 2001, that runs free digital services for activists, grassroots groups and anyone who wants to communicate without being profiled.

    It provides email accounts, mailing lists, blogs, websites, chat and VPN access.

    • nonethewiser 10 minutes ago

      Anyone? Like the PKK which The EU, UK, and US have labeled a terrorist organization ~20 years ago because they've killed thousands in Iraq, Turkey, and Syria since 1984?

      • john_strinlai 7 minutes ago

        that would technically fall under the definition of "anyone", yes...

        • nonethewiser 4 minutes ago

          Not just technically. Also in practice. That's the reason cited for the sanctions. Seems reasonable.

      • mrtesthah 4 minutes ago

        Is that more, or less, than the 1.2 million people Musk has killed so far with the illegal dismantlement of USAID?

        I see people posting links to x.com and commentary from him all the time.

  • NoboruWataya 38 minutes ago

    The "About" page seems fairly clear:

    > A/I was born over 20 years ago to provide internet support (through website hosting, e-mail accounts, mailing lists, chat, blogs, and much more) to activists and collectives coming from the world of grassroot and social movements.

  • john_strinlai 37 minutes ago

    i thought the page says it pretty clearly.

    they are a group of people providing services to activists. services include email, web hosting, chat, and other anonymity services. (see https://www.inventati.org/services/)

  • gwbas1c 33 minutes ago

    Did you click on https://www.inventati.org/about ? (I also tried reading the manifesto first.)

    From it:

    > We support individuals, collectives, communities and groups whose political and social activities fit within this worldview and who share with us some fundamental principles: anti-fascism, anti-racism, anti-sexism, anti-militarism

    I suspect they have some "not mainstream" political views; although I think understanding what these views are requires more in-depth reading of the blogs that they host.

exiguus 43 minutes ago

There is also an article on we will free us [1] if you want to dive deeper into that rabbit hole.

[1] https://www.wewillfreeus.org/the-server-called-paranoia-defe...

  • AndrewKemendo 37 minutes ago

    Seems like this should be a/the top level link

  • badsectoracula 30 minutes ago

    The article is quite long, but these two give a brief idea of what is going on:

    a) According to that article, what it seems they are about:

    > Its manifesto describes the project in explicitly political terms. A/I is antifascist, anti-capitalist and antimilitarist. It promotes free software, encryption, pseudonymity and the independent circulation of knowledge and cultural work. It reserves its limited, volunteer-run resources for people and projects broadly compatible with those principles rather than businesses, political parties, organized religions or institutions already possessing the means to make themselves heard.

    b) And the issue U.S. has with them:

    > The United States alleges that A/I supplies specialized digital architecture, encrypted communications and hosting to antifascist groups and other radical movements, including organizations already designated by the United States.

collabs 42 minutes ago

For those like me who don't have context, here is the New York Times article on this recent news / event

https://archive.fo/e8Gss

> The State Department on Wednesday designated three groups based in Europe, including two that advocate Palestinian rights, as transnational terrorist organizations.

> The move is part of the Trump administration’s fight against what it calls a “resurgence of far-left political terrorism” worldwide, a focus that many security experts say is disproportionate.

> In a statement, the department said that it would impose sanctions on Palestine Action, which is based in Britain and organizes acts of support for Palestinians and opposition to Israeli policies; Masar Badil, another pro-Palestinian group with branches in Western Europe and Canada; and Autistici/Inventati, known as A/I Collective, which is based in Italy and offers free digital tools to leftist activists around the world.

a/I collective in the OP is the third on this list.

> based in Italy and offers free digital tools to leftist activists around the world

  • galonk 41 minutes ago

    Thank you! Kind of nuts they posted this with that title but no explanation.

mmaunder 22 minutes ago

When an organization is intentionally vague about what they do, it’s usually a red flag.

  • mrtesthah 20 minutes ago

    They host blogs and digital infrastructure for autonomous anarchist/leftist collectives and are deeply connected to global free speech movements since their founding in 2001. If you expect to see a two sentence mission statement or a product summary, you’re going to be disappointed.

  • epolanski 20 minutes ago

    They aren't?

    They are very clearly providing IT support for free to anti fascist organizations.

  • john_strinlai 4 minutes ago

    the first few sentences of this link, and their about page, and their services page all make it clear what they do. i am unsure of where you confusion comes from.

grim_io 32 minutes ago

I guess bombing them got some pushback.

Everyone's a terrorist nowadays.

tokai 22 minutes ago

Maybe they should try couping the Italian government, rename themselves to Ragazzi Orgogliosi. That should help.

rvz 25 minutes ago

> Our financial strategy relies exclusively on voluntary donations.

That is not a sustainable strategy in the long term. Sure after this news they will get lots of donations, but long term it is not something that is realistic.

Since they are now "sanctioned" by the US you cannot legally donate to them even if you wanted to...*[0]

[0] *Unless you now know why this collective needs crypto more than ever.

AndrewKemendo 42 minutes ago

Seems like a great organization

Streisand effect at work again

epolanski 21 minutes ago

What does it entail, in practice?

They are sanctioned, okay, and? What happens practically.

  • tokai 18 minutes ago

    Anything between having their google profiles deleted to abducted and tortured at a CIA blacksite.

aeon_ai 42 minutes ago

https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10076 - Direct link to the sanctions declaration.

The actual Treasury Announce here - https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616/

"The Autistici Inventati is an Italy-based far-left organization that provides a range of technological tools and services to violent left-wing extremist groups, including website hosting on foreign servers, encrypted email accounts, chat and video conferencing, and digital architecture associated with its “Noblogs” platform. Autistici Inventati identifies itself as an “anti-fascist” and “anti-militarist” organization opposed to capitalism and exclusively provides its services to vetted individuals, collectives, and groups it perceives to be aligned with its ideology, including to sanctioned terrorist organizations such as the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), which has been designated by the United States, United Kingdom, and European Union for its use of terrorist tactics leading to thousands of deaths in Türkiye, Iraq, and Syria since its establishment in 1984.

Autistici Inventati is being designated pursuant to E.O. 13224, as amended, for having materially assisted, sponsored, or provided financial, material, or technological support for, or goods and services to or in support of, an act of terrorism."

  • 32ikU 22 minutes ago

    How quaint. The MEK (Iranian People's Mudjahheddin) were designated as a terrorist organization but collected money in EU streets all the time. Now they are useful against Khamenei.

    The US would also like to use the equivalent of the PKK in the large Kurdish part of Iran against Khamenei.

    Nothing to say of using the PKK rebranding of SDF in Syria as well as receiving "global terrorist" Al Jolani in the White House.

ecshafer 34 minutes ago

From the NYT > based in Italy and offers free digital tools to leftist activists around the world

So I don't think this is as innocent as they seem. They are making and providing tools that enable communication specifically for Far Left groups, some of which are terrorist groups. I think their mock innocence here is hiding that they are being very intentional with their actions. If I make guns and make a point to only give them to groups which agree with my manifesto, and they are terrorists, I can't act innocent there. Providing communication services are the same. The probability they are hosting or providing support to a terrorist group is approaching 1.

  • tptacek 30 minutes ago

    Without judging this or trying to axiomatically derive the logic, I think the claim here is that a/I knowingly and deliberately provides services to the PKK, which the US and the EU designate as a terrorist organization.

    • jasonlotito 24 minutes ago

      My understanding is that this is only coming from the US government. Do we have any reliable information to back this up? Because if it's just the US government, I can safely assume it's all lies.

    • agentcoops 4 minutes ago

      It’s more than that, I think. I read through the various government statements as I was curious about rationale and precedent: the other two groups impacted by the order are rather unambiguous extremists, so understandable. In the extended justification for this a/I group, the US gov lists a large number of US and EU “Antifa” groups that variously leverage their services, including one that the individual recently arrested for wiping his phone is meant to be connected to. It suggests to me this was the result of some considerable network analysis and that the intent is to now have stronger legal tools to go after those groups.

      I think that second (speculative, of course) step would be the more worrying precedent: if the use of technical infrastructure also used by designated groups was formally made to be incriminating/right-waiving. Why wouldn’t that apply to Signal, for example? The OP suggests the dividing line should be between true infrastructure open to all, including unsavory actors, versus tools that advertise services to a particular faction. It’s not an entirely disagreeable distinction, but I think in practice it’s rather fuzzy (Moxie of signal is/was rather far left himself, if I recall).

  • jasonlotito 26 minutes ago

    > So I don't think this is as innocent as they seem.

    Well, they are innocent until proven guilty.

    > They are making and providing tools that enable communication specifically for Far Left groups, some of which are terrorist groups.

    By all means, present something that shows they are knowingly supporting terrorist groups so we might judge for ourselves.

    I mean, we have organizations that supported the January 6th terrorists that haven't had anything done to them, so I'm looking for something more serious than murder, storming the capital, riots, attacking the police force, and attempted assassination of a Vice President.

  • sailfast 24 minutes ago

    Sure you can. Gun makers do it all the time!

  • forestrywat 11 minutes ago

    Which terrorist groups, specifically? And what support are they offering specifically?

    You say provide tools for communication. Presumably that's every communication platform worldwide - almost undoubtably some sort of terrorist has used each of them.

  • 4MOAisgoodenuf 7 minutes ago

    In the United States, your example is explicitly protected by the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act. It is the legal defense of arms manufacturers who's product is sold legally and in good faith but is used by a third-party for illegal actions.

    Rather than a vague insinuation that this group has taken some action deserving of economic blackballing, perhaps you could point to some specific action this group has done?