roughly 1 day ago

If you’ve wondered why there wasn’t an effective political Left in this county for the last ~60 years, buckle up.

leonixyz 1 day ago

Being far-left is now officially terrorism. Now they will start move the bar one step at a time, one organization at a time, to cut off every political movement that does not align.

  • swed420 1 day ago

    It actually was declared a year ago

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSPM-7

    And a bit rich that it mentions its reasoning included the Kirk assassination. Kirk was starting to make noise about the Epstein stuff, so Trump personally called him and told him to knock it off. Shortly after he was assassinated.

  • rurban 11 hours ago

    No, they decided only on support for the Kurdish PKK, which is only under right-wing states a terrorist org. Everyone knows they are not one for decades.

austin-cheney 1 day ago

They really don't have to call a group far left or far right in their justification, because it sounds like weak credibility in search of social support. They could just call them a criminal organization seeking directly, or indirectly, to contribute to violence for political ends, which does not sound like the case here.

  • tumetab1 1 day ago

    > They could just call them a criminal organization seeking directly, or indirectly, to contribute to violence for political ends

    Most jurisdictions will prosecute you under terrorism laws for that.

    The "adjectives" (far-left) are there just explain to the public what kind of terrorism they are talking about.

    • vkou 1 day ago

      How is a newspaper calling for war, or a billionaire sponsoring a warhawk not meet the same criteria?

  • bix6 1 day ago

    But if they label it far left then they get to rile their idiot supporters up.

  • beej71 1 day ago

    > because it sounds like weak credibility in search of social support

    And it works!

BLKNSLVR 1 day ago

Nice to know these guys exist, might have to make use of some of their services.

amarcheschi 1 day ago

>Their claim about Rose City Antifa seems to be false, however, conflating Rose City Antifa with another project called Rose City Counterinfo.

Can't make it real

UJ-FLD-ScrTr 1 day ago

From a European perspective, one has long wondered what this government actually considers NOT to be terrorism. The violent storming of a national symbol of democracy is clearly not one of them.

This doesn't exactly make one want to spend their next vacation in the USA – even though, admittedly, we have our own problems here.

  • wmeredith 1 day ago

    > one has long wondered what this government actually considers NOT to be terrorism

    Anyone willing to line their pockets, it seems.

  • red_admiral 1 day ago

    Terrorism has always meant the other guy's goons, as opposed to my freedom fighters.

  • tialaramex 1 day ago

    The American Right are spending a surprising amount of resources on fucking over Europe. Once piece of good news about a future US economic crash is that there'd be no money left to do that. After Elon gets a tax bill from a new progressive administration whose answer to "You can't tax your way out of America's problems" is either "Well lets at least try" or even "If the effect is just to get rid of the billionaires we're OK with that too" your local racists may find he's too distracted to wire them some more cash for their antics.

    But maybe that's just wishful thinking, it's not as though there weren't fascists about, they just didn't have the same funding before.

  • Arodex 1 day ago

    >This doesn't exactly make one want to spend their next vacation in the USA – even though, admittedly, we have our own problems here.

    Don't worry, Trump and Musk will export their model to Europe. They guys and gals who were easily bought by Russia when it had money will very gladly side with the richest and gaudiest men on Earth.

  • deaux 1 day ago

    "I am a freedom fighter, you are a rebel, and he is a terrorist."

    Going against the US regime means you're a terrorist. If you instead bomb a "terrorist nation", i.e. "a nation not aligned with the US regime"'s schoolgirls, you're a freedom fighter.

    • dormento 15 hours ago

      A freedom fighter, a rebel and a terrorist walk into a bar.

      They're all the same person.

      (How long till the world declares the US a "terrorist nation"?)

      • queenkjuul 14 hours ago

        > How long till the world declares the US a "terrorist nation"?

        When and if they do they will be many decades late

  • TitaRusell 1 day ago

    America is one of the few countries that honor their traitors with statues.

    • senderista 10 hours ago

      I guess there are a few statues in Finland honoring the Red Guard?

  • lenkite 1 day ago

    > From a European perspective, one has long wondered what this government actually considers NOT to be terrorism.

    The definition hasn't really changed regardless of the U.S. President: If you kneel to current U.S. Administration policy, then you can be a mass-murdering, torturing, rapist head-chopper and you will still be a "good guy".

    If you object to whatever the current US policy is and are small fry, then you are a bad terrorist begging to be eliminated by the American Military Machine. You become a valuable elimination target of US intel/war-corpo investment.

deaux 1 day ago

Right, so after already ramping up mass surveillance to the level of China [0], now the gap in freedom of political expression gap is also rapidly closing. Soon, there will be no gaps left, and it will just be worse in every single way imaginable. Until that day though, people will just keep pointing to those remaining gaps, one at a time. So that they can conveniently be taken away.

If you're not American, and have even a shred of moral fiber left in your body, I really recommend you don't come here. What awaits you in terms of Silicon Valley jobs is a choice of AI labs, AI wrapper startups, and Andreessen Horowitz-funded startups; this is 99% of fresh SV jobs. Beauties like Flock, Toka (hacking security cam footage), Doublespeed (AI influencer account botting), Civitai (30k deepfake models of real women), Cluely (cheat on everything), Coverd (betting on your bills), Cheddr (TikTok of sports betting), Ex-Human (have "adult" chats with bots mimicking underage celebs), and another hundred or so of such lovely products. All of these are a16z backed, and their tendrils are in every SV company out there. Stay in your country. If you're too thirsty for money to stay but still have some morals left, go to China, they're pretty much single-handedly driving the only thing left that gives humanity a chance of avoiding extinction; the transition to renewable energy.

[0] https://www.npr.org/2026/03/25/nx-s1-5752369/ice-surveillanc...

  • __MatrixMan__ 1 day ago

    Or do come and start something new. Something meaningful. Show us how to build things that don't hurt each other, because we appear to have forgotten.

    • thrance 19 hours ago

      You can't fix capitalism from the inside...

      • __MatrixMan__ 17 hours ago

        And how would you fix it from the outside?

        Besides, it's only capitalism of you take on investors. You can charge money to solve a problem without summoning the demon.

  • notwatching 1 day ago

    You lost me at the "morals" and "go to China". a) have you ever worked there and b) did you forget what you wrote in your very first sentence?

physhster 1 day ago

a̵n̵t̵i̵-̵a̵n̵t̵i̵fa is just fa, no?

  • wl 1 day ago

    Assuming this is a serious question: There are people who are not themselves fascists who object to the direct action tactics (read: violence, vandalism) sometimes employed under the banner of "antifa."

    • __MatrixMan__ 1 day ago

      These people are easy to find. Listen for people who are acting like a hero because they boycott Amazon or some other with-your-wallet kind of activism, and suggest nonviolent sabotage. They clutch their pearls so hard, each becomes a tiny neutron star, and you can then triangulate their position in real space based on the gravitational waves from those collapses.

    • MSFT_Edging 1 day ago

      It's always curious to me how property damage weighs the same or worse than violence against real humans.

      I've had people tell me with a straight face that broken windows make one group just as bad as the group threatening violence based on ethnic lines. I don't get it.

      • SpicyLemonZest 1 day ago

        If someone were to come to my workplace and smash a window, for example, I think it's pretty fair to interpret that as a threat that they might smash the people working there next.

      • 8note 4 hours ago

        itll make more sense if you consider that the right wing has been selling the idea that there is only one fredom/right - property ownership under capitalism

        and with that hayek setup, the property isore important than the life. you can be tortured, imprisoned and murdered, but as long as you still own a factory, you are a free man.

        its silly, buts its the driving idea behind western culture for the past 40-50 years or so

  • wyre 1 day ago

    Yes. Or pro-fa.

  • wmeredith 1 day ago

    No. Just because I am not against people golfing, does not making me a golfer.

    • morkalork 1 day ago

      If you're hunting down and prosecuting anti-golfers for their beliefs then you're at least a golfer-sympathizer. A golf club licker if you will.

    • Arodex 1 day ago

      All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.

    • sigmarule 1 day ago

      It makes you okay with golfing, or not care enough about the impacts and implications of golfing to form an opinion.

      It's like they say: if there is a golfer at a table and 10 other people talking with him, you have 11 golfers.

  • woodpanel 1 day ago

    Judging from noblog's opening statement of "connecting radical people" together with a welcoming bomb, I'd suspect they are very welcoming to open, peaceful discussions, particulary with those holding opposing views.

    > "When fascism returns, it will not say, 'I am fascism.' No, it will say, 'I am anti-fascism.'" – Ignazio Silone

  • senderista 10 hours ago

    Pol Pot and Stalin were self-proclaimed anti-fascists, so opposing them makes one a fascist?

impure 1 day ago

If you had any doubts about digital sovereignty or leaving the USD movements...

samueljjlopez 1 day ago

Cool.

So this is the US government acting at the behest of neonazis: " According to one anti-fascist research group, “Some of the most well-known NoBlogs sites belong to researchers who solely report on far-right hate and radicalization, never doing anything aside from showing you what exists.” " in their newest crusade generally championing the concept of fascism (which is what you get when you declare yourself anti-anti-fascist, as should be immediately evident to anyone with the ability to follow basica boolean logic).

Cool, cool.

_bent 1 day ago

sounds anti free speech to me!

  • watwut 1 day ago

    No, it is pro free speech. It is only when you censor or insult or criticize far right that free speech gets in danger.

zombot 19 hours ago

Never heard of them before. Streisand effect.

nojvek 1 day ago

United States of Soviet America?

bediger4000 1 day ago

Where is the NRA in all this? I mean, the NRA and their acolytes have spent about 40 years insisting that private armory ownership is the last defense against an authoritarian government overreach. Here we are, this is the overreach. Are the US' well-regulated militias gearing up as we speak?

  • duxup 1 day ago

    They don't really care about any of that. The NRA has been a slush fund for it's leadership for a while.

  • krapp 1 day ago

    Who do you think most of the NRA members and gun owners voted for? Their definition of "authoritarian government overreach" is "A Democrat is in the White House."

    >Are the US' well-regulated militias gearing up as we speak?

    If they are, it's because ICE is looking for recruits.

  • 8note 4 hours ago

    no, theyve been insisting that gun companies get rich. thats the only real point of the NRA and second amendment crowd. a demand to a right to a business model

  • JuniperMesos 4 hours ago

    Cryptocurrency advocates are the more useful ideological group in this situation I think - the main way that this US government designation harms Autistici/Inventati is by cutting them off from legitimate fiat payment rails controlled by the US government. These are exactly the payment rails that Bitcoin, Monero, and other decentralized cryptocurrencies exist to bypass. Anyone trying to make it easier for people to buy things with bitcoin and avoid US KYC/AML laws while doing so, is making it easier for this ruling to be irrelevant to Autistici/Inventati.

shevy-java 1 day ago

I think it is the reverse situation - the US government is a global terrorist. Canada noticed this too recently again, when the USA tried to sneakily put in abusive clauses that would take advantage of Canadians and put them as second class citizens in the new trade agreement. Trump acts as a mafia and now we know that "The Art of the Deal" is a mafia slogan.

  • SlightlyLeftPad 1 day ago

    “They are either the hero or the victim, but never the perpetrator.” - Narcissist ethos

    “Narcissism has more in common with self-hatred than with self-admiration.” - Christopher Lasch

    “The four core pillars of narcissism, as defined by clinical psychologist Dr. Ramani Durvasula, are a lack of empathy, grandiosity, a chronic sense of entitlement, and a constant need for admiration and validation” - America Psychology Association (possibly a global terrorist organization)

    • frm88 19 hours ago

      More dark triad because pure narcissicm misses the transactional behaviour and the psychopathy where a clear perception of reality is sometimes muddled.

          All three dark triad traits are believed to be conceptually distinct, although empirical evidence shows them to be overlapping. They are associated with a callous–manipulative interpersonal style.[8]
      
          Narcissism is characterized by grandiosity, pride, egotism, and a lack of empathy.[9]
      
          Machiavellianism is characterized by manipulativeness, indifference to morality, lack of empathy, and a calculated focus on self-interest.[10][11]
      
          Psychopathy is characterized by continuous antisocial behavior, impulsivity, selfishness, callous and unemotional traits (CU),[12] and remorselessness.[13]
      

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_triad

      • SlightlyLeftPad 15 hours ago

        Yes I think most of those boxes are checked. I’m still somewhat fascinated/baffled by the fact that many people seem to paradoxically associate these traits with “good leadership.” It’s a tale as old as time.

woodpanel 1 day ago

here's the official state department's statement: https://www.state.gov/releases/office-of-the-spokesperson/20...

  • woodpanel 1 day ago

    According to that, they provided services to the guys that cut off parts of Berlin from the power grid, that caused 1 fatality.

    IANAL but the common understanding of the situation would be: You can't as an ISP prevent malicious actors from using your service, but you do can assist the government - in this case the German - to hand over the data to help assist law enforcement. If state-department's claims are true, did noblogs.org do so?

    • amarcheschi 1 day ago

      In italy they were even arrested but always cleared of what they were accused. I don't believe the US gov did a better job investigating them either

ChrisArchitect 1 day ago
  • forestrywat 1 day ago

    More related than dupe, as this article includes a statement from the group being labeled terrorist.

    • ChrisArchitect 1 day ago

      Same discussion. Statement shared over there. No need to split up the discussion.

      • layer8 1 day ago

        I submit that “dupe” is a misleading misnomer if the submission does not link to the same content.

        • 1vuio0pswjnm7 1 day ago

          "I submit that "dupe" is a misleading misnomer if the submission does not link to the same content"

          Imagine every time you make a submission the same commenter submits a reply with only a different thread URL, no title, no story URL, and the misnomer "[dupe]"

          But the story URLs are different, not duplicates

          It makes no sense

          This site has constant repetition of URLs, topics and comments

          It has 250+ pages of active stories at any one time. That's potentially 250+ different discussions

          There is nothing in the design to prevent "duplication", nothing in the guidelines, and nothing in the proactive moderation

          HN is described as a news aggregator. It should be expected in a news aggregator, users may submit stories by different authors published at different URLs offering different coverage of the same news topics. If the site operator wanted to prevent this for some reason, it could. HN does not

          It seems the algorithm actually promotes such stories. Hence this sub-thread

          Discussion on HN is generally highly repetitive, unoriginal and filed with meme-like, and sometimes toxic, comments. Many folks complain about it, others might like it. Every user is different. It's not for any one user to determine what any other user should or should not see; readers can make up their own minds

          The majority of HN users do not participate in "discussion". They either read the stories and/or the replies. Some might only visit HN periodically. Perhaps they are not following HN discussions, they have no idea what has been discussed earlier and no time to find out or reason to care. The majority of HN stories have zero replies, i.e., no "discussion". It stands to reason that some users read the stories, i.e., the news, irrespective of "discussion". Upvotes on these stories are potential evidence; unless these users are just upvoting titles

          Alleged "duplication" of discussion is irrelevant in these submissions because there is no discussion. Stories are not just "discussion topics". They are news, for readers who are interested in reading news

          Finally, (real) duplicate URLs are commonly found in submissions that never get labeled "[dupe]". These are explicitly allowed on a discretionary basis. The "[dupe]" tag is inconsistently applied and cannot be relied on

          • ChrisArchitect 1 day ago

            Yeah, every time, because you know what you're doing.

            Nothing to do with the urls, but the duplicate discussion topics. The site in fact does not have constant repetition of URLs, topics and comments (within similar timeframe). 250+ active discussions. All unique.

            Stuff moves pretty fast around here and you can miss it. It's more about keeping things fresh and not repeating discussions over and over. And additionally stopping some of us from having to see the same story over and over.

            Nothing in the design because that's what mods are for. Mods, and submitters looking out for the well-being of the site!

            Your repeated submissions amounted to spamming the same topic while most coverage brings nothing new to the discussion that warrants a separate thread. Why split up the conversation only to have it all duplicated and impact the 'freshness' of the site with discussions already had hours to days earlier?

            If you've been around enough it's weird that you're not clearer on this. Striving to keep the feed fresh and discussion together helps us all, you could do better to contribute that way.

jmclnx 1 day ago

>Of course, Donald Trump’s successors could keep repressive policies like this in place, much as Joe Biden did.

This proves once again who runs the US Gov, it is not the voters but the ultra-rich.

  • mindslight 1 day ago

    For voters to actually be in control, they would have to do straightforward things like reject the obviously terrible destructionist candidate in favor of the milquetoast corpo stooge. I would love to say it's as principled as "I chose the wrench" from Good Will Hunting. But from everything I've surmised it's that mass media propaganda is really strong - most people simply can't fit more than one thing in their head at once. Focus them on how bad A is and they will eagerly choose B all day long despite it being clearly worse.

    A long time ago I had the realization that the primary information flow in democracy isn't the few bits from each citizen to the government, but rather it's from the candidates/parties to the people making them think they wanted any of the ensuing shit because they "chose" it. And I'd say Grumpism has thoroughly proven that out. The people who used to be your average conservatives are now radical reactionary destructionists, and if you nudge them to ponder their former values they wince at thinking too hard and then get angry at you.

    • Supermancho 1 day ago

      If ranked voting wasn't being outlawed in various states, it might have started the US down the path of tearing down the miserable political duopoly.

buellerbueller 1 day ago

Why is the Trump administration against anti-fascism? </s>

Edit: lol @ the guy claiming anti-fascists are "intolerant" while all of today's leading technofascists are crowing about how empathy is self-defeating. so, we are supposed to eschew empathy, unless it is for fascist ideals? sure, technofascists, whatever you say.

tim333 21 hours ago

The article seems misleading implying it's due to the ""collective’s “far-left” politics"" which seem odd as far left isn't illegal.

If you look at the govt announcement it cites:

>multiple high-profile instances of breaking into defense infrastructure and British military installations, and causing millions of dollars’ worth of damage to military equipment. Palestine Action has promoted its violent, criminal, and terrorist acts on social media, encouraging the use of similar tactics internationally, including within the United States and along the U.S.-Mexican border.

and the like https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/sb0616

So it's breaking in and destroying stuff which is illegal, not the far left.

  • lesostep 19 hours ago

    The problematic thing is the implication that holding a similar view automatically makes you a part of the same organization.

    Terrorist groups are more traditionally defined as an organized groups that use terrorism as a military tactic to achieve their goals.

    noblogs.org never used such tactics nor supported them.

    If we call anyone a terrorist, if they have at least one view similar to those who did terrorist acts, we only need 2 quite specific terrorist acts to cover all earths population.

    • tim333 16 hours ago

      The action is against Autistici Inventati, not noblogs. The govt argument is

      >Autistici Inventati [...] exclusively provides its services to vetted individuals, collectives, and groups it perceives to be aligned with its ideology, including to sanctioned terrorist organizations...

  • queenkjuul 14 hours ago

    Lmao the Italian blogging platform has nothing to do with Palestine Action, did you even read the article?

    Or do you even pay attention? "Far left" has been illegal in the past and trump clearly wants it so again