windex 2 hours ago

I dont mind old phones, i just want to replace my batteries. I still remember my old nokia and popping out batteries to pop in another. Was perfect.

binlog 2 hours ago

It's by design, so they can lock you into monthly payments.

_ifton 4 hours ago

iPhone se3 (A15 chip, decent), is about $130 refurbished. It has depreciated, and continues to do so. But I do wonder if there is another to take it's place in the future.

  • rootsudo 3 hours ago

    Pixel 8 also? Time to buy.

unddoch 9 hours ago

Similarly, data center loans are starting to make cheap mortgages disappear.

  • gonzalohm 4 hours ago

    Care to elaborate? Are you saying that because banks are loaning to data centers, the rest of the people are experiencing an increase in mortgage rates?

    • francisofascii 2 hours ago

      The data center financing is driving up yields. Mortgage rates are based on adding a spread (maybe 2%) to the 10-year tresury (currently at 5.26%).

      • idiotsecant 1 hour ago

        I think wildly out of control inflation is what's doing that.

TitaRusell 7 hours ago

I refuse to pay 1200 eurodollars for a phone or worse go on some shitty plan. Sadly AI boom is killing midrange phones.

stuaxo 6 hours ago

So nobody will be able to afford anything, great work - this sort of thing always goes well

mrheosuper 5 hours ago

Wrong, cheapest smartphone will always exist.

  • euroderf 4 hours ago

    "The poor will always be with you, and they too need phones." -Jesus

BurnerBurner 10 hours ago

I heard they are downgrading to 12GB ram too

  • theandrewbailey 2 hours ago

    Oh, the horror. I remember when a 12GB disk was more than you could ever use in your life.

georgemcbay 9 hours ago

On one hand, despite being someone who makes a living writing software for mobile devices I haven't bought a new phone in more than 5 years because it is so much cheaper to just buy a 1-2 year old used phone in nearly perfect condition and all the new 'innovations' are worthless bullshit.

On the other hand, I'm sure this will trickle into the used market and still impact me so excuse me while old man yells at cloud.

  • gonzalohm 4 hours ago

    Except that a 1-2 year old phone already has noticeable battery wear. I really hope the EU ends up forcing manufacturers to make changing batteries easy

    • tommyage 46 minutes ago

      They already did, didn't they. Should be an applicable law in 2027. Though I can not refer or interpret the actual laws, sorry.