jmartrican 9 minutes ago

To me they are all just cats. I'm sure if they all got it on they would all be able to have functional offspring.

nemomarx 3 hours ago

> Tiger cats previously had been considered a single species, but genetic studies decades ago suggested the existence of multiple species.

So more like they identified that part of the known population was a different species just now. It'll take more effort tagging and identifying other tiger cats to see if they also belong to this particular one?

  • fckgw 3 hours ago

    Yeah, the quirk being that the known population is just this one in the sanctuary. They haven't identified where specifically he came from or where there might be others, so for now he's a one-of-one.

  • NetMageSCW 3 hours ago

    No, the new cat resembles a tiger cat but is distinctly different even from appearance not just DNA. It just hasn’t been seen or tested before now.

  • technothrasher 1 hour ago

    > It'll take more effort tagging and identifying other tiger cats to see if they also belong to this particular one?

    This effort is actually already ongoing. This splashy headline that seems to have crushed it on publicity front is actually just a small piece of the research currently being done on oncillas (aka tiger cats). The word on the grapevine for the past year or so is that the oncillas are going to get divided up into between five and twelve new species.

pbhjpbhj 2 hours ago

Did I miss where they said the basis on which they judged it to be a different species?

Presumably DNA differences - would have been nice to see something about that.

There's mention of wildcats interbreeding with house cats, so presumably ability to cross-breed isn't part of the "new species" calculation?

  • apetrovic 2 hours ago

    > The small feline, about the size of a domestic moggy, went under the radar because it was confused with other wild cats that share similar spots and stripes.

    > But DNA studies show the cat is actually in a class of its own, highlighting how much remains unknown about some of the world's most elusive mammals.

  • technothrasher 1 hour ago

    > so presumably ability to cross-breed isn't part of the "new species" calculation?

    Considering people have interbred jaguars and leopards, and then interbred the female cubs with lions to get a lijagulep, I'm not sure cross-breeding is the gold standard of speciation that gets sold as such in school.

    The greatest threat to some of these cat species (the Scottish Wildcat being a prime example) is loss of genetic differentiation through interbreeding with domestic cats.

    • jolmg 13 minutes ago

      There's not much information on particular hybrids, but I imagine when interbreeding jaguars and leopards, there are probably barriers of fertility or longevity, like one of the sexes tending to be infertile, which is why I imagine you'd then interbreed with yet another stable species like lions.

      The point is that if you have a supposed "species" that can't sustain itself reproduction-wise and needs other species to reproduce, then it's not really a species.

      The concern here is that the so-called new cat "species" may simply be a hybrid that can't reproduce with a community of its kind.

t1234s 3 hours ago

Whoever domesticates that breed for house cats will become rich.

  • kilroy123 3 hours ago

    This was my first thought. Sadly, I'm sure people are actively out looking for these just for that reason.

  • pvaldes 22 minutes ago

    Would be a wasted effort, as there are other species that are not endangered (And with just a male known breeding them would be a defy).

    Bengal cats, an hybrid of an asian species and domestic cats, are commercially breed filling that niche. They are expensive and forbidden by law in some countries. If you, as me, desire badly to grab one and scratch its belly, don't check in internet Prionailurus rubiginosus.

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    Claiming that this is the first new cat discovered in 100 years is strange, as we have the proposal to split Leopardus colocolo into other three to five species in 2020. Until 2020 there were seven extant species of Leopardus with many subspecies. Some of those are being slowly raised to species. Maybe this is an hybrid?

    All Leopardus except the ocelote are endemic of Latin America and many are endemic of Los Andes. USA has the ocelote and some day could have the smaller Margay also.

HelloUsername 5 hours ago

We got a new cat species before we got GTA VI