points by OroPla 10 hours ago

German here. A "Verschlimmbesserung" is something that makes one part better and another part worse. If it only makes things worse you don't need a German word for it, you can just call it worse.

For things that were intended good, but ended up bad, there's an English idiom: the path to hell is paved with good intentions.

Youden 9 hours ago

Not a German but Duden disagrees with you [0]: "etwas in der Absicht, es zu verbessern, schlechter machen".

[0]: https://www.duden.de/rechtschreibung/verschlimmbessern

  • b3orn 9 hours ago

    German here, this is the right definition, trying to improve something but ending up making it worse.

  • jjtheblunt 3 hours ago

    that's not disagreeing at all (american partial german, partial pole)

renehsz 10 hours ago

My understanding is that a Verschlimmbesserung stems from a genuine intent to improve something, even though it ultimately has the opposite effect.

  • OroPla 10 hours ago

    I don't remember hearing or using it in this context. It's pretty rare that the goal was to make something worse and if the outcome is only bad, you can just call it bad, right? The word is only needed to communicate that there were good and bad outcomes.

    • houl 8 hours ago

      A Verschlimmbesserung of the definition of Verschlimmbesserung.

    • alpaca128 6 hours ago

      Just calling it bad does not include the intent of improving it. Verschlimmbesserung does.

heresie-dabord 8 hours ago

> For things that were intended good, but ended up bad, there's an English idiom:

Better is the enemy of good.

Old Italian proverb: "il meglio è nemico del bene"

Shakespeare, King Lear: "Striving to better, oft we mar what's well".

  • marton78 11 minutes ago

    It's kind of like the road to hell, which is famously paved with good intentions.

pseudohadamard 21 minutes ago

As opposed to Vershittification, the perfect union of terms from the two languages.

juvvel 8 hours ago

Yeah, no, it means wanting to make things better but ending up making them worse.