slowin 1 hour ago

I really wish people would mention their stack when they have these curl install scripts. I'd rather use a real package manager, but I'm not totally against installing a compiled binary this way. I am, 100%, not going to install some Java/Type-script nightmare like this though. How is it resolving the dependencies? Is it installing some version of node, bun... on my machine? How's that working with other versions I have installed?

Related: please don't write command line tools in non-compiled languages! Don't make the runtime your user's problem.

  • bobajeff 56 minutes ago

    I know where you're coming from. I've been worried about all the supply chain attacks on npm too. And I'm far from a security expert. However, if you're okay with installing binary packages via `curl somesite.com | sh` I don't think you are in a better position with regards to security.

    • slowin 18 minutes ago

      Security is just one of my concerns. I'm actually more worried about borking my system because it's doing some out of band stuff with various javascript pieces that already exist on my system (not by my choice!).

  • lavela 55 minutes ago

    Agree. If you really want to know what's used here: probably uses bun single-file executables[0] so shouldn't clash with anything else on your system.

    [0] https://bun.com/docs/bundler/executables

    • mistercheph 28 minutes ago

      lmao curling and exec'ing a vibe coded script running in a vibe-coded runtime, what could possibly go wrong!

  • CharlesW 51 minutes ago

    The source is prominently linked: https://github.com/gloom-sh/gloomberb

    > please don't write command line tools in non-compiled languages!

    Around 40% of Linux CLI tools are written in interpreted languages.

    • rtaylorgarlock 27 minutes ago

      Let those be the 40% we prefer less :) Revealing stack does not validate the framework, but we appreciate some foss sauce 'round these parts.

    • slowin 16 minutes ago

      > The source is prominently linked: https://github.com/gloom-sh/gloomberb

      This is how I found out it's a javascript project and didn't install it. I only even bothered to do that because I actually wanted to try it. I'm just saying it would be awesome to have that right there next to the curl command.

      > Around 40% of Linux CLI tools are written in interpreted languages.

      And I prefer not to use those. Everything I said for Javascript holds for Python, Perl, Ruby... as well.

rdiddly 1 hour ago

Useful on its own merits.

Everybody who's distracted by the name and can't get past it, there's a thread developing here somewhere, where they're comparing it to Bloomberg.

  • brendoelfrendo 1 hour ago

    Yeah, I think a few of the widgets here are neat and useful. It's not a Bloomberg replacement, but it might be a good replacement for a few tabs? You could get the info elsewhere, but I like this presentation more.

    Edit: Ah, they're offering a pro subscription. While I appreciate that cloud services aren't free, I'm not sure that I'm willing to pay to replace a few browser tabs. Not for me, but maybe for someone!

  • ynac 36 minutes ago

    100% agree. It's a fun name, but it ends up begging the comparison. The look and feel of it was an instant download for me. It's actually exactly what I want and even tried / failed to build on my own for years. I'll be supporting this project.

u8 2 hours ago

Yeah... people aren't paying Bloomberg $31,980 per year for a TUI. They're paying for the data source... and I don't think you have Bloomberg's connections.

  • mushufasa 2 hours ago

    Correct. Also, Bloomberg has messaging for traders that is actually an important network effect in certain domains.

    • hmokiguess 2 hours ago

      Can you elaborate on the network effect piece? Curious about that

      • lesam 2 hours ago

        It's really useful to have a chat app that is gatekept behind a 20k/year+ subscription. It's a particularly useful signal if someone is offering you a million+ dollar asset for sale.

        • hmokiguess 1 hour ago

          I get that, was more curious if you knew how much that is used for signaling and the traffic there. I sort of expected these communities to exist in other sources (like regular SMS / Slack / private back channels etc).

          • brendoelfrendo 1 hour ago

            I'm going to copy-paste one of the comments from ryukoposting higher up in the thread because I think it's relevant here:

            > 2) Bloomberg's chat is important because, as a hedge fund or investment bank, the chat is how you buy and sell bonds. You agree to the trade in the chat, then tell the back office folks to execute the trade. Direct quote: "I'd wager 90% of the ~400 trillion in annual bond trading value happens over Bloomberg DM"

            You may discuss trades via SMS or Slack; maybe you're important enough that you have a broker, and you send them your idea. But the broker at the investment bank is probably handling those trades via Blomberg terminal. That's the network effect: all the bankers are in Bloomberg chat, and it is therefore the easiest place to find who owns an asset and negotiate a trade.

            • hmokiguess 56 minutes ago

              Thank you, that was the piece I wasn't aware of! Appreciate the reposting.

      • kortilla 2 hours ago

        Same effect as a country club. You know a lot about the person you’re talking to just based on their presence.

        • hmokiguess 1 hour ago

          That's a cool way of putting it, thank you!

      • quickthrowman 35 minutes ago

        Some assets are traded OTC aka “in a chat window”.

  • sakimonkey 2 hours ago

    it's a GUI and a TUI, pay attention to the screenshots

    • passivegains 2 hours ago

      Does the GUI have Bloomberg's data source?

  • rvz 2 hours ago

    > They're paying for the data source... and I don't think you have Bloomberg's connections.

    We keep seeing hundreds of Bloomberg competitors mimicking the interface and they always forget that the chat (with the connections), data and the newsroom are the reasons why Bloomberg's network effect is close to impossible to break.

    Using the Bloomberg Terminal is taught very early at colleges for any finance professional, which is how they get them as well.

    • hmokiguess 2 hours ago

      Is it still though? I have a few finance friends and they all seem to be on TradingView these days

      • quickthrowman 34 minutes ago

        Are they trading bonds, equities, credit default swaps, options, , etc in large dollar amounts? “Finance” is pretty broad, Bloomberg is for traders and I-bankers afaict.

    • notpushkin 2 hours ago

      I think it is more oriented towards retail investors (if anybody) than professional users. In theory it could compete with TradingView?

      (I’d especially love to see some federated social feature built in!)

  • devin 2 hours ago

    To be fair, I don't see anywhere on this page where they try to suggest that this is competitive with a Bloomberg terminal.

    • croes 1 hour ago

      The name

      • NDlurker 1 hour ago

        Inspired by and competing with are different things

        • pverheggen 26 minutes ago

          Well yes, but a lot of people immediately jump to conclusions based on name alone, it's human nature. Definitely something to consider when you're picking a name for a project.

          An example that comes to mind is JSON5. People have a visceral reaction to the name, it sounds like it's trying to be HTML4.01 -> 5 but for JSON. In reality, it has its uses but doesn't supersede JSON whatsoever. The name itself has given it a bad rap though.

          If you pick a name like "Gloomberb" the most obvious interpretation is that it's a Bloomberg alternative.

    • wnmurphy 1 hour ago

      Seriously. I see a cool product that someone built and is sharing with the community, and the top comment is basically a criticism that it's not a $31k terminal.

      • dpmartinez 51 minutes ago

        It is almost like they want to be ripped off, the massive amount of gatekeeping is bizzare.

        Financial information should be free for everyone.

        • deadbabe 39 minutes ago

          It is, after its value has been exploited.

        • intrasight 25 minutes ago

          Yesterday's data is much cheaper and often free ;)

  • theodric 2 hours ago

    Some of us are just here for the æsthetics! Plus I already have the SEA100 "Centerboard" with chrome accents, and this will help complete the look.

  • d--b 2 hours ago

    actually a lot of data is not included in the standard bloomberg license and you have to pay extra (mostly passing through to the data vendors) to get access to it.

    There is not a single reason for Bloomberg’s dominance but the one feature that keeps people on it is the chat.

  • jimmydddd 2 hours ago

    Financial companies are cutting down on the amount associates can bill the firm for a $30 dinner, and the time before they can have the firm pay for a $30 car ride home. They definitely wouldn't pay for Bloomberg if it could be easily replaced.

    • rmah 1 hour ago

      Bloomberg terminal is only $133/day (assuming 240 work days per year). So, while $32k/yr seems expensive at first glance, given the total annual cost of an analyst or trader, it's not huge. Of course, they'd rather not spend the $32k/yr if they could avoid it, if bloomberg can give you an edge on just one or two trades a year, you come out ahead. So...

      • toomuchtodo 41 minutes ago

        I bet its cheaper than tokens for software development with higher ROI.

        • forshaper 30 minutes ago

          I can say companies with less than 20 mil arr pay around $150k a year for saas and others (sometimes the same) also pay 50k a year for a niche agent harness.

    • jpfromlondon 1 hour ago

      Nobody ever got fired for choosing Bloomberg, even if there was a viable alternative there is no way anyone is pioneering the switch.

    • adjejmxbdjdn 56 minutes ago

      Skipping a dinner is not losing you much money.

      Making a bad trade or missing a good one due to delaying data or bad data can pay for several years worth of bloombergs for everyone in your firm in one moment.

  • handwarmers 1 hour ago

    does the author claim to be a bloomberg clone?

  • ryukoposting 1 hour ago

    Asked a dear friend in the finance industry what he thought about Bloomberg. He's the type of guy who uses these systems daily. Mostly paraphrasing:

      1) Bloomberg was lightyears ahead of anything else in the pre-internet days, so there's a lot of UI familiarity.
    
      2) Bloomberg's chat is important because, as a hedge fund or investment bank, the chat is how you buy and sell bonds. You agree to the trade in the chat, then tell the back office folks to execute the trade. Direct quote: "I'd wager 90% of the ~400 trillion in annual bond trading value happens over Bloomberg DM"
    
      3) Bloomberg is the biggest and best aggregator
    

    This is fascinating to be because I always assumed latency was the key. After all, the only Bloomberg terminal I've ever seen in person was hooked up to its own dedicated fiber drop. It seems like the chat and sheer breadth of data are the differentiators.

    • tikhonj 1 hour ago

      Bloomberg is big enough that different aspects of the system are going to be absolutely key for substantial subsets of its customers.

      • steveBK123 1 hour ago

        Yes its a multi-decade long-tail of thousands and thousands of use cases all used in different combinations by different users.

      • Terr_ 20 minutes ago

        Hence quips like: "Most customers only use 10% of your features, but every customer uses a different 10%."

    • mattnewton 1 hour ago

      TIL Bloomberg terminal is the original iMessage blue bubbles network

    • pizzalife 1 hour ago

      It's funny to think some of the world's largest trades are being done in something that resembles a game's tradechat. (WTS bonds)

      • globular-toast 1 hour ago

        I find it a bit less funny. There is this perception that what finance people do is super important and grown up but following a brief stint in the industry I realised it literally is just a game. We used to trade bits of stationery and trading cards for fun at school. They never stopped. The only difference is people who never consented to any of this are paying for it all, especially when it all goes wrong.

        • allthetime 54 minutes ago

          That should have been obvious from the mere fact that the bottom rungs are almost completely populated by silver-spooned nepo-babies.

        • linkregister 44 minutes ago

          Why would a trader need your consent to make a trade with somebody else?

          • grigri907 26 minutes ago

            I assumed they were referring to market crashes caused by irresponsible levels of risks and deceptive practices like we saw in 2008, and/or government-funded bailouts

          • yulker 14 minutes ago

            why should we have financial regulation at all, is that what you're getting at?

        • sheeshkebab 25 minutes ago

          It’s pretty bad except that any other way is even worse.

      • lq9AJ8yrfs 1 hour ago

        For a long time fixed income trading took place over AOL Instant Messenger and later Yahoo chat rooms.

        I am not making this up.

        There were custom frontends that would enrich things like cusips.

    • NoboruWataya 40 minutes ago

      It's really only a specific subset of traders that need close to zero latency. Many other finance professionals deal on larger timescales so it's not that big a deal. I am more "finance-adjacent" so I don't use Bloomberg personally but have worked on plenty of deals where "time sensitive" means "it has to get done this week. Oh wait, the bank hasn't finished its KYC checks yet. Okay, it definitely has to get done next week. Unless the KYC checks are still ongoing, in which case, for sure gotta get it done by the end of the month".

    • deadbabe 37 minutes ago

      There is a marketplace on Bloomberg where you can buy and sell interesting stuff you don’t really find anywhere else. Some of it stored in freeports and delivered to your freeport, etc. top tier escorts, etc.

      • tecleandor 27 minutes ago

        In freeports? So you mean like art?

    • dist-epoch 28 minutes ago

      Bloomberg Terminal is for humans. It takes about 10 clicks to do a stock BUY. your average retail stock trading platform is much quicker, many have 1 click trading.

      The dedicated fiber drop was most likely for reliability, not for latency.

    • _fat_santa 27 minutes ago

      I've heard the same thing about Bloomberg's chat many years ago. Since everyone you're chatting to also has to fork over ~$30k/yr to use it, there's the implicit assumption that you're talking to a serious person.

    • nose 16 minutes ago

      I find it interesting that nobody from the finance community is directly speaking about their experience in this thread.

      What's the equivalent of hacker news for financial folk?

  • rdiddly 1 hour ago

    Good thing they're not asking $31,980 per year for it then?

  • traceroute66 1 hour ago

    > They're paying for the data source

    Yup.

    If you want fixed-income data, Bloomberg is the only shop on the street data-wise.

    If you want other financial data, Bloomberg's fixed entry-point pricing tends to make more sense in terms of bang for buck than its competitors modular price sheets.

    People saying Bloomberg is just about the chat are simply embarrassing themselves.

    Look at the price sheets of Eikon, Factset, CapIQ etc. There is no such thing as a cheap "Bloomberg killer".

    Quality data is expensive. So are the leased-lines it arrives at Bloomberg on. So is the data wrangling architecture.

    • dpmartinez 47 minutes ago

      This is what is wrong with the world today.

      • seanclayton 20 minutes ago

        They're too busy dealing with their fake life problems to think about their impact on the world.

    • resters 8 minutes ago

      It's a bit ironic that in a country with free markets, so much of the data that is relevant to modern finance is proprietary and quite expensive.

      The exchange/marketplace is the oldest business in the world. How absurd that in 2026 seats on exchanges cost millions and the entities that control exchanges are mechanisms of gatekeeping rather than quality control -- the cronyism shown to SpaceX reveals just how corrupt it's become.

  • minimaltom 34 minutes ago

    I mean look at the name... this seems more like a fun quip than a product. I'm over here basking in the glow of dem vibes.

  • dist-epoch 27 minutes ago

    Many people pay the Bloomberg Terminal subscription ONLY for the chat. They don't use anything else from it.

  • storus 26 minutes ago

    Can't you just use a bunch of agents to extract financial statements from company websites the moment they are published? OK, no insider info but you can still do quick agentic fundamental analysis and decide which companies are interesting.

  • weinzierl 21 minutes ago

    Also, and in addition, the value of the Bloomberg Terminal is not the UI, it is the consistency. You don't pay for an accelerator and a break pedal, you pay for the 100% guarantee to find them in the place >100k people have been trained to find them.

grahammccain 1 hour ago

I don't think the finance field needs a better bloomberg, I think the whole interface and everything needs to be rethought. Part of the moat is the data, and data access. But I think we need to completely reimagine the terminal interface and interactions with the introduction of AI. The finance industry probably will be slow to adapt, but I genuinely think someone could completely disrupt 99% of the wall street businesses with an original idea.

  • springtimesun 57 minutes ago

    My observation is that finance and banking and corporate functions high enough up the ladder operate more like a clubhouse than cutthroat businesses. You’d think all you need to do is make a better interface, but if you’re not part of the club, you’re not doing the business (or even getting shot at it).

methodical 1 hour ago

Bloomberg's moat is the messaging service within it, not it's aggregation of data

  • hodder 59 minutes ago

    People repeat this rhetoric all the time, but I promise you, finance professionals can and do easily migrate to other messaging platforms such as ICE chat. This isn't a moat for BBG

    • jeffbee 34 minutes ago

      Evidence for this being that BlackBerry Messenger and even AOL Instant Messenger had various amounts of traction during the lifetime of Instant Bloomberg.

hmokiguess 2 hours ago

this looks neat, what's the data source and latency?

andreypk 2 hours ago

Interesting project, the view looks like gpui based interface, but source code say that it is web based interface written on typescript

charv 2 hours ago

An aside - do tools like this (or what it's modeling, the Bloomberg Terminal) really offer that much benefit to finance folks?

  • Retr0id 2 hours ago

    Bloomberg Terminal costs ~$24K per user per year, so the fact that people are paying for it implies it offers at least that much value. As mentioned elsewhere in the thread, most of that value lies in the data sources.

  • elictronic 2 hours ago

    Here's an article. Basically if your trading stocks no. If you are trading different instruments or want interaction with the money folks (connections) yes. https://financetracked.com/bloomberg-terminal

    From it: "Bonds and Fixed Income: It provides the best data for interest rates and debt markets. Global Economics: It easily connects data from different countries, such as currency rates and government debt. The Chat Room: The messaging system is the industry standard. If you want to talk to the biggest players in the market, you often need to be on Bloomberg."

    • Ntrails 1 hour ago

      Depends a bit how you're trading stocks - bbg is still an extremely attractive data provider so I'd not dismiss them out of hand.

sigmonsays 1 hour ago

This post / OP really needs to say if it's AI SLOP or not and to what extent. This looks like AI slop.

  • jeffbee 33 minutes ago

    Any "TUI" you've seen in the past few years is 100% vide-coded slop.

    • dpmartinez 27 minutes ago

      Curious what you consider those that aren't 100% 'slop', aside from the common ones.

      Because I'm starting to see the word 'slop' as a synonym for:

      "This person may or may not have used AI to build software and I don't like it"

TZubiri 2 hours ago

What I pressume is the text for "Gloomberg" in the Hero header looks very fucked up

https://imgur.com/a/ssiKckF

Hopefully it's not intentional

  • nhinck2 2 hours ago

    How much intent can you ascribe to any of this?

  • 8note 2 hours ago

    Gloom Harder?

  • u8 2 hours ago

    How well do you think their terminal works if they couldn't even spend the time to clean up their vibe coded website?

    • dpmartinez 2 hours ago

      > How well do you think their terminal works if they couldn't even spend the time to clean up their vibe coded website?

      Your website is literally down.

      https://i.postimg.cc/YCdkwZZq/image.png

      And I don't think their website is that bad.

      • KomoD 2 hours ago

        > And I don't think their website is that bad.

        The download button doesn't even work properly.

        Clicking download in the top right gives me a .dmg, the other download button in the hero gives me the .exe, the one in the footer gives me a .dmg

        Docs give me a 404, blog is empty

        • dpmartinez 1 hour ago

          > The download button doesn't even work properly. Clicking download in the top right gives me a .dmg, the other download button in the hero gives me the .exe, the one in the footer gives me a .dmg

          I mean, it works for me?

          The site is clearly not ready and maybe they didn't expect people to find it, but that doesn't mean the site is bad.

          It is just a work in progress.

          I'm not even interested in the site anyway the software and the source interests me more.

          https://github.com/gloom-sh/gloomberb

          • KomoD 1 hour ago

            > I mean, it works for me?

            Doesn't invalidate my experience.

            > and maybe they didn't expect people to find it

            What do you mean? It's linked on the Github repo.

            > but that doesn't mean the site is bad.

            I think a site that doesn't work properly is a bad one. That's just my opinion.

            • dpmartinez 1 hour ago

              > What do you mean? It's linked on the Github repo...I think a site that doesn't work properly is a bad one. That's just my opinion.

              I mean isn't this the point of open source?

              You can fork the repo and fix the problem instead of complaining?

    • TZubiri 33 minutes ago

      Exactly, our time is limited, so if we are to evaluate a product, we will take any excuse possible to veto a vendor.

      If you fail at a webpage in 2026, you have no chance at doing anything complex or innovative.

  • ghjv 2 hours ago

    looks fine on my machine

  • cwnyth 2 hours ago

    Looks fine on my end (Firefox).

  • timcobb 2 hours ago

    what platform is that? looks fine on mine

    • TZubiri 34 minutes ago

      MS Edge, which is Chromium (Blink?) Based

  • KomoD 2 hours ago

    Yeah, looks totally broken on my machine too.

gymbeaux 2 hours ago

When I see new software now, my first thought is an LLM wrote it and it makes me not want to use it. I also assume there are bugs and it’s not particularly feature-rich.

  • ahahs 2 hours ago

    my first thoughts too.

  • MyHonestOpinon 1 hour ago

    It is becoming very hard not to use an LLM. I have been working on a project all this year. I started doing everything by hand, and I am using LLMs a little bit more every day. I suppose we want to use projects that were crafted with care, whether or not LLMs were used. But it is not easy to figure that out. It reminds me. 30 years ago, before code formatters were popular, you could tell good code just by looking at how carefully formatted it was.

  • janlukacs 1 hour ago

    same and for some reason people are downvoting. why would we use vibecoded stuff with sensitive information?

    • dewey 26 minutes ago

      What’s sensitive about displaying public information in pretty graphs?

RetroTechie 2 hours ago

gloom.sh/docs - 404: This page could not be found.