california-og 8 hours ago

This is my list, thanks for sharing!

It started out as a list for ASCII and textmode art editors but grew to include all kinds of alternative design tools. I've hosted two workshops where the assigment is to create a printed zine without the use of any Adobe software. I give this list to the participants to explore. The scans of these zines and more info can be found here:

https://tekstien-marginaalien-keskus.aalto.fi/residenssi/hei...

https://tekstien-marginaalien-keskus.aalto.fi/residenssi/hei...

I think its crazy that my University (Aalto) pays over a million euros in licencing fees to Adobe every year while the design teachers are chronically overworked and understaffed. My ultimate goal is to persuade the institution to ditch Adobe and switch to FOSS tools, and hire more staff & teachers.

  • dddw 8 hours ago

    Nice! Great goal and very cool zines!

  • citizenpaul 7 hours ago

    One of the.big hurdles is pantone support. At some point most places want their design to hit the real world and pantone has that market cornered. I dont just mean the technical parts pantone has expensive licensing that most FOSS doesnt and wont ever pay.

    There is more than one toll troll.in that marker.

    • bartvk 7 hours ago

      I am guessing that pantone is a bunch of colors that are coded a certain way? Isn't there a common mechanism across design software? Like PDF is the platform agnostic way of sharing documents?

      • WillAdams 3 hours ago

        It is a licensing mechanism, a list of ink formulas, and (most importantly) an entire eco-system of ink swatches and sample books --- a designer can get a customer to agree to a colour, tear off a pair of ink chips, give one to the customer and one to the printer, and the expectation is that the printed piece will _exactly_ match the chips.

        There are lots of alternatives --- the Glass Container Manufacturing Institute has a set of swatches which are used for packaging which the industry has agreed on.

        That said, there isn't much spot colour work left, and most of what there is, is brand-specific, or done for budgetary reasons (long runs w/ just two colours).

    • derrasterpunkt 3 hours ago

      There is no Pantone Support in Adobe Software since 2022/2023.

  • jan_Inkepa 4 hours ago

    i see pablodraw up top - you know your stuff and have good taste!

  • codazoda 4 minutes ago

    Nice. I love zines and I’ll enjoy checking out those other links.

gottlobflegel 7 hours ago

How does notion manage to make this site, which is essentially just a static table, take several seconds to show any meaningful content?

  • california-og 6 hours ago

    Tell me about it... I have plans to migrate this to a static HTML at some point.

WillAdams 3 hours ago

Made me instantly think of Glenn Reid's nifty "TouchType.app" for the NeXT, which I still really miss --- these days I just convert to paths and use Macromedia Freehand/MX (or a proprietary tool for the CNC machine I support on the side).

aghilmort 3 hours ago

super cool roster! niche text generators come to mind, e.g., text version of regex train tracks / git traces come to mind. png/svg version https://regexper.com/#%5Cd%7B5%7D%28-%5Cd%7B4%7D%29%3F idk if any robust ascii lib exists, same for things like root cause or swimlanes etc.

have done some 1-off 1-shots of similar for AI input/output is primary frame of reference, and plenty of others have attempted same to varying success / nice to see ASCII graphics get some new life in them

primaprashant 6 hours ago

I built this [1] for myself so that I can comment lgtm in PR comments with an ASCII art. Pretty silly but fun.

[1]: LGTM ASCII Art as a Service - https://lgtms.app/