wan888888 5 hours ago

I'm having a similar use case from time to time, I just use imagemagick

magick -density 150 input.pdf \ -colorspace Gray \ -virtual-pixel White -background White \ -rotate 0.7 +repage \ -attenuate 0.45 +noise Gaussian \ -blur 0x0.4 \ -brightness-contrast -5x12 \ -compress jpeg -quality 78 scanned.pdf

  • __mharrison__ 4 hours ago

    I have something similar. Someone asked for a signed PDF. I digitally signed it and sent it to them. They said it has to be scanned. So I did some image magic fu to it to rotate it and make it look crappy. Then they accepted it.

    • nashashmi 3 hours ago

      My goto technique: apply signature stamp. Flatten. Change blend mode to multiply. Convert page to image. Rotate image by 0.5 deg. Paste scanned page on tape. Flatten. Change blend mode of image to burn or multiply. Convert to image.

      The only tell tale sign is that the text still has this aliasing like texture that doesn’t happen in real scanned pages.

kccqzy 3 hours ago

I just display the PDF on my monitor and use my phone to take a photo of it. Scanner apps are good at eliminating moire patterns while accentuating the dust on my monitor. It looks highly realistic.

mysterydip 5 hours ago

I’m all for fun side projects, so don’t take this the wrong way. Does this have a practical use case? Like are people actually wanting to make their PDFs less legible? Usually I’m trying to do the opposite, clean up my scanned-in documents.

  • ktpsns 5 hours ago

    This is in fact useful for people who demand you to print out and sign contracts. Did so many times in the past, using some ghostscript+imagemagick scripting to avoid the cargo culturing.

  • laurencerowe 5 hours ago

    Sometimes companies demand you print/sign/scan a document.

  • pooploop64 5 hours ago

    I've been in situations where I had to supply a digital version of a signed document but the person asking for it required that it be physically printed off to be signed and then scanned back in. Some policy thing. I think it would technically be fraud to use this but that's one use I thought of.

    The description however seems like the creator just likes how scanned documents look. They describe it like how analogue music fans describe vinyl records. I guess everything is nostalgic to someone out there eventually.

  • jhbadger 4 hours ago

    For some value of practical, I could see it being useful in making handouts for an RPG where the handout is supposed to be a photocopy of a section of some rare book the players need to scan for clues.

  • nutjob2 4 hours ago

    Typically when I send a form I will do as much as possible in a PDF editor, including the signature. Most of the world is in denial about how electronic documents, especially scanned ones, work, so you have to play along to stop them from getting upset.

  • BrandoElFollito 4 hours ago

    There are countries such as France that request plenty of nonsensical handwriting with some weird also handwritten formulas. This comes from the times where graphology was a big thing in France (you would usually be required to send a handwritten letter of motivation).

    Poland is also strong on that, requiring "readable handwritten signatures".

    This will end when the dinosaurs that still feel it is important go away.

  • PufPufPuf 4 hours ago

    I was actually required in the past to "print, sign and scan", and due to my lack of a printer I just took a picture of my signature and pasted it in. Nobody ever complained, but if they did, I imagine I'd rather use something like this than go to a copycenter to print a single sheet of paper to satisfy some arbitrary requirement.

  • gsinclair 3 hours ago

    I sometimes want to create PDFs that contain text (Python code) that is not selectable. I want my students to type it in, not copy and paste.

    I don’t know whether this tool enables that, but the idea is in the neighbourhood of “make it look scanned”.

    • carstenhag 3 hours ago

      iOS will natively let you select the text, as it does ocr on ever image. Maybe Android does the same.

      • 1e1a 1 hour ago

        MacOS does this as well in Preview.

  • digitaltrees 3 hours ago

    Yes. Fraud. It makes a document look like it existed in physical form. Imagine for example a purchase agreement for a house that was physically scanned. You could change the signature to a different name and then make it look like it was original.

    I am not asserting the authors intent is to facilitate fraud or there isn’t any other practical use, but let’s not be naive and act like fraud isn’t a likely use.

    Before you downvote at least respond with why you think my analysis is wrong.

    • bluebarbet 2 hours ago

      It's not that you're wrong, but the fact that it would be fraud is farcical and needs to be challenged.

      My bank demands that I perform this ridiculous hoop-jumping. Like others here, I use ImageMagick hocus pocus to defeat them with trivial ease (a couple of times they complained so I tweaked the algo a bit and they were happy). The whole situation is beyond absurd. It's security theater in place of security.

      • digitaltrees 1 hour ago

        This is fraud. Your are passing off a document as authentic by misleading use of visual artifacts to make the origin of the document appear different than reality.

        Just because you don’t like the security theatre does make it acceptable to misrepresent the origin of a document to satisfy the security requirements.

        And I gave a specific example, slipping a page into a document that wasn’t in the original and making it look like it belongs by making it look scanned.

        Imagine I changed the purchase price on your home to 10% of its value rather than the original agreed price and took it to court to enforce the purchase. This tech would make that appear more credible.

        • falsemyrmidon 1 hour ago

          You could just as easily edit it, print it, then scan it again. This tech doesn't enable you to do anything you couldn't already do.

          The real problem is that written signatures are a poor form of authentication.

          • digitaltrees 59 minutes ago

            Just because there is an alternative path doesn’t mean this path won’t equally facilitate fraudulent acts.

            That is an example of a flawed argument named false equivalence. And it ignores that the this library eliminates the friction of printing, and enables the ability to scale the process.

        • bluebarbet 1 hour ago

          An interesting take that reveals differing moral bases.

          As a preamble, I have zero moral qualms about technically committing fraud in order to access my own money (almost nobody would).

          More important, I choose not to respect a law that upholds an insecure and broken system. A parallel with traffic regulations come to mind: as a cyclist I regularly break rules when I consider that they do not best serve my safety. All things being equal, I follow the law. But all things are not always equal and bad laws are there for the breaking.

          The correct outcome here is that the law is tested and amended. That is the way to end the perverse situation of the precise example you raise, where anybody with technical skills can fake a document and then win in court.

          • digitaltrees 1 hour ago

            I never said that the act of making a digital doc look like it was scanned is fraud.

            I said that process would be used in other fraudulent acts.

  • sowbug 2 hours ago

    Charles Schwab, the brokerage, didn't like that my signed form retitling an account looked too perfect (I had scanned my signature and then inserted the JPEG into their PDF form, which is absolutely 100% legal as a signature). So I printed the form out and sent them a picture of the printout. They didn't like that, either.

    So I moved my money out of the account. That worked fine.

carsonye 4 hours ago

Is there any good tool that does the opposite — turning scanned documents into clean PDFs? I’ve had that need recently.

echoangle 5 hours ago

If you’re interested in another suggestion: maybe allow image output too since that seems to be one of the steps in your pipeline? Maybe for some people using the jpg or a png directly is better than the final pdf.

sublinear 4 hours ago

In the example image, the edge gradient bevels give it away.

There might be extra stuff that can be done to remedy that with this tool, but I'm not sure I'd ever use this anyway.

  • overflowy 4 hours ago

    Everything can be adjusted, that mostly comes from `--paper-tone` being set too high.

ashton314 5 hours ago

This needs a flag to insert random blank pages

  • molybd3num 2 hours ago

    or make a random page the wrong orientation

colesantiago 4 hours ago

Thank you for making this a free tool.

There are too many PDF tools that are unnecessarily paywalled, or have a paid tier that don't make any sense.

We need more tools from paid ones that should be completely free and OSS.