stevenwireless 16 minutes ago

but these "free" tokens take up an end user's daily free quota, after which a user needs to pay. ?

Grimblewald 3 hours ago

Cheaper isn't as much of a problem as functional.

yalogin 2 hours ago

What is the target to write for is the key aspect here. Not sure there is enough on the phone for developers to create new experiences. I fear all of them are going to try to automate everything on the phone for the user. Not sure what value that provides. May be I am overly skeptical , let’s see

thallavajhula 3 hours ago

Reading the title I had a very different notion of what to expect. The article has something completely different. I was hoping this would be something for indie app devs.

  • blobbers 1 hour ago

    uhh isn't it basically free access to API if your apps are less than 2 million downloads?

    • hdjrudni 1 hour ago

      Before opening the link I thought they were reducing the cost per token.

      This smells more like a get you hooked and then crank the costs.

      Not that I'd be any less skeptical of the first option. We've already seen providers reduce quotas and raise prices.

sublinear 1 hour ago

Is this more scraping at the bottom of the barrel?

I get it. So many tech companies built their platforms around people submitting their work for sale. Now that things have cooled down they're desperate. This is exactly like what happened to the music and movie industries.

If they want to make money they must take bigger creative risks. AI is the exact opposite of that because it's trained on what's already been done.

bigyabai 4 hours ago

Small developers: "Your $99/year tithe has cost me thousands of dollars to provide basic support for your ecosystem."

Apple: "Did somebody say 'we want cheaper AI'?"

jmclnx 2 hours ago

>Apple is hoping to draw in newer developers with lower AI infrastructure costs

Good luck, but define "cheaper" ? If you have to pay, no individual will pay, just corporations.

  • dylan604 1 hour ago

    How do you come to this conclusion. I know several people that are absolutely not techy dev types, yet they pay for a subscription to chatgpt.

  • JumpCrisscross 38 minutes ago

    > If you have to pay, no individual will pay

    Fee with ads is the right fit for most people. But I don't think that describes most Apple customers or developers.

genghisjahn 58 minutes ago

I'm 5'7" thank you very much. That's above average in some regions.