jdthedisciple 16 minutes ago

> Upsert (https://github.com/tc39/proposal-upsert): [Weak]Map.prototype.getOrInsert(), [Weak]Map.prototype.getOrInsertComputed()

Their usage of upsert appears different than I was used to:

Me: Upsert = Update or Insert

Them: Upsert = Get or Insert

pjmlp 2 hours ago

26.2.0 is already out, why link to the previous release?

https://nodejs.org/en/blog/release/v26.2.0

What I would expect with the inclusion of temporal, is having a section on nodejs docs about Rust addons, alongside the C and C++ sections.

jauco 1 hour ago

Also the release that drops typescript transforms: https://github.com/nodejs/typescript/issues/51

(I’m not disagreeing to remove it. It just took me a while to find out what happened to it)

  • pier25 52 minutes ago

    Initially it didn't make sense to me... but it looks like type striping is really the way to go for future TS.

    There's the "types as comments" proposal[1] which could even land on browsers one day.

    I started using the erasableSyntaxOnly setting in my tsconfig to get ready for this.

    [1] https://tc39.es/proposal-type-annotations/

chrisweekly 1 hour ago

Tangent: if you use Node.js at build time you should check out VitePlus https://viteplus.dev

(No affiliation, just a fan of VoidZero's consistently excellent tools.)

  • rumblefrog 1 hour ago

    Looks interesting, what's their revenue model? Or how do we know it won't be abandoned in the near future?

  • KronisLV 1 hour ago

    Oh hey, they're the people behind Oxlint and Oxfmt: https://oxc.rs/

    I moved some projects over to those from ESLint + Prettier and while the compatibility isn't 100% (I didn't need that), and the time to process a codebase went from like way over a minute with the old tools to a few seconds with theirs.

noodlesUK 2 hours ago

I'm really looking forward to the temporal api being universally available. Moment and Luxon are fairly good but sensible date/time handling is something that really ought to be baked into the platform ootb.

  • culi 2 hours ago

    Until then, a solid backfill has been available for quite some time

  • jpsimons 2 hours ago

    I always thought the old Date is kind of elegant... increment anything with an overflow and it all wraps around correctly, like `d.setDate(d.getDate() + 100)` to advance a date 100 days. "March 208th" is interpreted like you'd expect, as are the hours and minutes and such.

    Of course, complete lack of non-local non-GMT time zones is a huge downside.

    • keeganpoppen 2 hours ago

      i'm pretty sure all that stuff works w/ Temporal... Temporal is extremely well-designed, in my experience. the js date object, on the other hand, has insane pitfalls, and i say this as someone who thinks not understanding JS ASI is a "skill issue", among other happily-un-"ergonomic" worldviews...

torgoguys 1 hour ago

I thought this was the release where the built in sqlite got its experimental tag removed, but I don't see it in the release notes. THAT'S got me excited more than Temporal. A stable API, huge utility and one less dependency.

emilfihlman 59 minutes ago

It's so sad that node refuses to add websocket server support.

Adding websocket would simplify stuff tremendously, as well as make deployments much, much more secure.

cute_boi 2 hours ago

Node JS team should look into bun and make progress. They are somewhat stable, but bun have lot of features and is more performant than Node.

  • HatchedLake721 2 hours ago

    /s ? Bun is not yet (ever?) compatible with Node. I'm sure if Node JS could trim the fat with breaking changes they'd be fast too

    • bel8 1 hour ago

      I expect bun to run almost everything that node runs these days. They have an extensive test suit to ensure that.

      Even the complicated NextJS runs with Bun: https://nextjs.org/conf/session/nextjs-bun

      Do you have a source for your claim?

      • vichle 1 hour ago

        Maybe if you start from scratch with a new project, but when migrating an old project it's definitely not a drop-in replacement. I try once or twice per year, but it's not worth the effort when the upside isn't that big.

    • notnullorvoid 44 minutes ago

      In my testing Bun wasn't much faster most of the time, usually on par for all non-IO related stuff, and there were some cases with scheduling where Bun was noticable slower.

  • karel-3d 1 hour ago

    they should rewrite their whole stack by AI from one language to another language, it seems fun.

  • postepowanieadm 1 hour ago

    They should the unexpected and vibe code node to zig. Or Odin for the kicks.

  • pjmlp 11 minutes ago

    I see no reason to leave node in what concerns JavaScript runtimes.