embedding-shape 1 week ago

> Not perfect, but I think as good evidence as any

It really isn't, I just tried a random one of my own HN comments, very much 100% human and it reported "100% of this text is AI Generated".

Tools that give false-positives aren't just "not perfect", they're actively harmful and not "as good evidence as any". Stop relying on those tools to give you any sort of direction or indication what so ever, they simply do not work.

Edit: Lol, just noticed Pangram also provides "evidence" for their rating, your link says it's 100% written by AI because there is 16 instances found of the Em Dash, that's it, those are all the evidence for the very confident "100% AI" score they gave... Yay science!

kristopolous 1 week ago

sure, but there's still actual journalism behind it. Isn't the primary objection to ai slop is that it's just vapid regurgitation?

I've been reading electrek for years, they're generally pretty decent journalists. If the author here is doing the interview, getting the notes together, doing the research and then has a system prompt of the voice of the publication and says "generate", do we still say slop?

Personally I think "eh..." - I think basically everyone will eventually view journalism as not necessarily involving the writing of the final document in the same way that most people don't yell about synthesizers not being real music any more.

  • bonsai_spool 1 week ago

    > most people don't yell about synthesizers not being real music any more.

    I think a lot more effort is required to release (popular) music, and I'm only hearing 'independent' music at concert venues which also require a lot of effort.

    It doesn't take a lot of effort to transform the raw materials of journalism, which you cite, into a finished product outside the process of writing and sitting with your thoughts. And there isn't a similar venue to the idea of concerts where I can personally see journalists' skill/creativity/mastery.

    Thus, I can't tell if the work of an AI-assisted journalist is intentional or complete the way I can tell if an AI song is poorly done.

    • embedding-shape 1 week ago

      If you cannot tell if the work is poorly done or not, why it matters if it's AI or not?

      The reason many of us dislike AI slop is because it's very evidently AI slop, if you cannot tell, then I wouldn't even say it's AI slop, maybe AI assisted if anything, but matters less if the content itself actually doesn't suck.

      • bonsai_spool 1 week ago

        I was unclear - I can tell that there was an AI involved in writing readily.

        In music, it's hard to make a convincing AI product (at the moment) because editing sound is challenging.

        In journalism, it's easy to make AI articles and relatively easy to edit them not to sound like AI. So if someone isn't doing that minimal work, I wonder what other things they're taking the easy route for.