> ABC4’s crew was also issued a trespassing notice.
The class system in the US has never been more on display with the datacenter build outs. A senator who attacks a journalist gets them threatened by the police. Town halls to listen to local "concerns" are charades where they look for any excuse to arrest anyone who voices opposition [1].
>>> Claremore police arrested Darren Blanchard for trespassing during the meeting after officers said he refused to follow the rules after going over his allotted time to speak. Police escorted the man out of the meeting and booked him into the Rogers County Jail.
On the other hand, even if the town council takes concerns seriously and denies permission to build, the companies doing the building will just sue and build them anyways[1].
It's almost as if constituents are treated like cattle and it doesn't ultimately matter what they want.
I guess this is what they mean when they say they want to "run government like a business:" They mean run government to enrich themselves and be totally unaccountable to the public.
People in Utah are super upset about this data center project (and no, they aren't bussed-in paid protestors like "Mr. Wonderful" claims). Check Instagram and ksl.com for all the drama, it's very entertaining. Utahns are being asked to save water at every opportunity and then this world-record sized data center gets green lit by the state government with zero explanation as to how that jives with the drought narrative. People are already tracking down the financial links between state government officials and the people behind this are already being discovered. State senator slaps a reporter's iPhone out of their hand,county commissioner gets teary eyed saying his family was threatened, governor calls the attitude of all the citizens complaining "dumb" and throws a little temper tantrum. It's incredible
You know there has to be money being passed under the table to the council members, state legislature, and governor's office by the billionaire's wanting to build these things. There is absolutely no benefit to the local's to have this in their backyard. The construction money will go to out-of-the-area contractor's to build it, they'll staff it (minimal as it will be) with H1B visa holders from India, and money that won't see light of day in the community. All they'll have is higher property taxes, water, and electricity bills. Of course, being republican, they'll continue to vote these same people back into office.
For the utilities at least, data centers take a crazy amount of electricity and water to operate. These costs are subsidized through some sort of arrangement - that I've never really understood - with the respective companies and spread out among the residents. Maybe there's something similar re property with the area becoming more "valuable", leading to something akin to gentrification.
The impression I get from conversations with non-technical people is that they associate data centers with AI and all the associated controversies and negative externalities that come with that. They do not realize that there are non-AI uses for data centers. I wonder if it’s only a matter of time before people are openly trying to torch data centers.
To be fair, 99.9999% of all new datacenter projects are explicitly for AI and only for AI. Only AI projects want this much rack space. All the big tech companies combined (except their cloud computing arms) could fit together in just one of these AI datacenters.
I have family in Lakeland, Fl which is an area that is currently deciding on whether to build one. All I've heard from them is they're worried about their power rates and water bills going up. Their assumption is the added strain on the local infrastructure will be passed on to them.
People are drowning everywhere with inflation and anything that is perceived to lead to a higher monthly bill is going to encounter resistance.
Some of the people are upset that it's AI. Most in Utah are upset about drought conditions and reports of heavy metals in the air thanks to parts of The Great Salt Lake's lakebed being exposed to the air, and now this being rammed down their throats with no explanation of how it doesn't make all that worse.
Not to mention it's being given an 80% tax break, and the air quality is Salt Lake City being the worst in the world on bad days (the plan is for this data center to be natural gas powered).
Wow, second time this week that Utah has been on the HN Frontpage! Guess we're moving up in the world! Or, well, down, as neither story reflects particularly well on our state.
> Senator Jerry Stevenson (R-Layton) is a powerful GOP lawmaker on Utah’s Capitol Hill — sitting on three of arguably the state’s most powerful boards and chairing the state’s top budget committee.
I actually went to call you on this before double-checking just to be sure. No, you were right - 80 characters exactly. Couldn't even fit the apostrophe for "reporter's"
I am absolutely amazed to discover that, despite spending my whole life living in the US, I've never known that states also have their own senates. I'm starting to think that there is no age at which I will stop being embarrassed by the things I do not know.
> there is no age at which I will stop being embarrassed by the things I do not know.
I'm with you on that!
An additional fun (?) fact is that Nebraska has only senators, not state representatives, due to having a unicameral legislature unlike all the other states and the federal government. The members of Nebraska's single-house legislature are customarily called "senators," and they're also officially non-partisan, though in the modern era this is just a fig leaf and their partisan political affiliations are clear.
It's so weird that people are getting worked up about a fake project. Regardless of government activities, there is no industry financing to actually build anything.
> ABC4’s crew was also issued a trespassing notice.
The class system in the US has never been more on display with the datacenter build outs. A senator who attacks a journalist gets them threatened by the police. Town halls to listen to local "concerns" are charades where they look for any excuse to arrest anyone who voices opposition [1].
[1] https://www.newson6.com/tulsa-oklahoma-news/arrest-made-duri...
It often seems that police officers' most sacred duty is to protect the property rights of the wealthy.
It seems like it is, because it is.
ACAB is real, because good cops either quit or they fight the system from within and receive abuse, and then they quit (or die)
>>> Claremore police arrested Darren Blanchard for trespassing during the meeting after officers said he refused to follow the rules after going over his allotted time to speak. Police escorted the man out of the meeting and booked him into the Rogers County Jail.
There's something very very wrong with that.
I'm just glad that this can never happen in America thanks to our constitution!
On the other hand, even if the town council takes concerns seriously and denies permission to build, the companies doing the building will just sue and build them anyways[1].
[1] https://fortune.com/2026/05/06/ai-data-center-michigan-salin...
It's almost as if constituents are treated like cattle and it doesn't ultimately matter what they want.
I guess this is what they mean when they say they want to "run government like a business:" They mean run government to enrich themselves and be totally unaccountable to the public.
People in Utah are super upset about this data center project (and no, they aren't bussed-in paid protestors like "Mr. Wonderful" claims). Check Instagram and ksl.com for all the drama, it's very entertaining. Utahns are being asked to save water at every opportunity and then this world-record sized data center gets green lit by the state government with zero explanation as to how that jives with the drought narrative. People are already tracking down the financial links between state government officials and the people behind this are already being discovered. State senator slaps a reporter's iPhone out of their hand,county commissioner gets teary eyed saying his family was threatened, governor calls the attitude of all the citizens complaining "dumb" and throws a little temper tantrum. It's incredible
You know there has to be money being passed under the table to the council members, state legislature, and governor's office by the billionaire's wanting to build these things. There is absolutely no benefit to the local's to have this in their backyard. The construction money will go to out-of-the-area contractor's to build it, they'll staff it (minimal as it will be) with H1B visa holders from India, and money that won't see light of day in the community. All they'll have is higher property taxes, water, and electricity bills. Of course, being republican, they'll continue to vote these same people back into office.
> All they'll have is higher property taxes, water, and electricity bills.
How would the datacenter lead to higher taxes and bills? Genuinely curious.
For the utilities at least, data centers take a crazy amount of electricity and water to operate. These costs are subsidized through some sort of arrangement - that I've never really understood - with the respective companies and spread out among the residents. Maybe there's something similar re property with the area becoming more "valuable", leading to something akin to gentrification.
The impression I get from conversations with non-technical people is that they associate data centers with AI and all the associated controversies and negative externalities that come with that. They do not realize that there are non-AI uses for data centers. I wonder if it’s only a matter of time before people are openly trying to torch data centers.
To be fair, 99.9999% of all new datacenter projects are explicitly for AI and only for AI. Only AI projects want this much rack space. All the big tech companies combined (except their cloud computing arms) could fit together in just one of these AI datacenters.
Have a source for that?
I have family in Lakeland, Fl which is an area that is currently deciding on whether to build one. All I've heard from them is they're worried about their power rates and water bills going up. Their assumption is the added strain on the local infrastructure will be passed on to them.
People are drowning everywhere with inflation and anything that is perceived to lead to a higher monthly bill is going to encounter resistance.
Some of the people are upset that it's AI. Most in Utah are upset about drought conditions and reports of heavy metals in the air thanks to parts of The Great Salt Lake's lakebed being exposed to the air, and now this being rammed down their throats with no explanation of how it doesn't make all that worse.
Not to mention it's being given an 80% tax break, and the air quality is Salt Lake City being the worst in the world on bad days (the plan is for this data center to be natural gas powered).
The proposed build out will consume 9gw of electricity, all LNG fueled
The entire State of Utah, *combined* consumes less than half that much energy.
Wow, second time this week that Utah has been on the HN Frontpage! Guess we're moving up in the world! Or, well, down, as neither story reflects particularly well on our state.
> Senator Jerry Stevenson (R-Layton) is a powerful GOP lawmaker on Utah’s Capitol Hill — sitting on three of arguably the state’s most powerful boards and chairing the state’s top budget committee.
Problems with the title:
1. The story is not about one of Utah's 2 US senators, but about one of its state senators. The title should probably say "Utah state senator."
2. There is a missing apostrophe in "reporter's"
He is a Utah senator. It is a job title.
Many people reading this headline will initially assume, as I did, that it refers to one of Utah's two US senators.
Why not add the word "state" and immediately clarify this?
The strict HN title character limits make you consolidate the headline as much as possible.
I actually went to call you on this before double-checking just to be sure. No, you were right - 80 characters exactly. Couldn't even fit the apostrophe for "reporter's"
I am absolutely amazed to discover that, despite spending my whole life living in the US, I've never known that states also have their own senates. I'm starting to think that there is no age at which I will stop being embarrassed by the things I do not know.
As always, there's an XKCD for everything: https://xkcd.com/1053/
> there is no age at which I will stop being embarrassed by the things I do not know.
I'm with you on that!
An additional fun (?) fact is that Nebraska has only senators, not state representatives, due to having a unicameral legislature unlike all the other states and the federal government. The members of Nebraska's single-house legislature are customarily called "senators," and they're also officially non-partisan, though in the modern era this is just a fig leaf and their partisan political affiliations are clear.
> “… I will stop being embarrassed by the things I do not know.”
Come to the dark side…darnit, I learned something new today.
It's so weird that people are getting worked up about a fake project. Regardless of government activities, there is no industry financing to actually build anything.
Kevin O'Leary’s Biggest Scam Yet: https://youtu.be/RWoV0EXxa7c
If you are right that it's all a scam then that makes it even more upsetting that government leaders are falling for it