breakall 5 minutes ago

Yes! I want this for MainStage -- this would allow me to automate my weekly template setup for playing at my church. Each week before practicing I look up the songs in Planning Center and create a new MainStage concert file with one patch per song, and add notes to each patch screen with the song's key, etc. Automating this would save me the time of doing the busy work and get right to practicing.

ssalka 1 hour ago

Things I would use AI for in music production:

1. Generating track layouts (add tracks + empty audio/midi clips throughout)

2. Generating MIDI sequences

3. Generating Serum patches

4. Extracting stems from existing audio

5. Automating common workflows (eg sidechaining)

6. Semantic search of sample library

That being said, I don't think I want a full agentic workflow for vibe-producing. Point solutions seems like a better fit for me, personally.

windowliker 2 hours ago

For me, the point of making music is making it myself. If want to have something done for me I could just play someone else's record and pretend like I made it.

  • brookst 1 hour ago

    The is the age-old music parochial thing. "Oh, he's just in a cover band, he doesn't write anything" / "Oh, she's just a composer, she can't even play the stuff she writes" / "Oh, he writes and plays his own stuff but knows fuck all about theory so it's not real music" / etc.

    Me, I'm having a blast with claude code, MCP, and Ableton. I'm directing harmony and asking for arrangements and variations in rhythm, mixing, and production. Don't know if that counts as "making it myself", but then I was writing music before I could actually play any instrument at all, so :shrug:

  • brandonb 1 hour ago

    Previous generations might have said the same thing about Ableton itself, vs playing a physical instrument. In that regard, AI might become just another power tool for creative expression.

    • tkiolp4 18 minutes ago

      Agree to some extent. At some point though we jump the thin line between creative expression and… magic?

      Like if at some point I can just say “Generate a song similar to Smooth Criminal, different enough to not trigger copyright claims” and it just works, and everyone loves it… well is that creative thinking?

  • jrm4 57 minutes ago

    I get why people make gut statements like this, and to me something does feel different about AI.

    But I realize I have not seen any criticisms of AI generated music that are meaningfully different from criticisms I've heard of other advances/changes in music technology, whether performance or recording.

    Sampling, scratching, drum machines, autotune, electric guitars even.

  • windowliker 36 minutes ago

    I will caveat my first comment by also noting that I am well versed in computer music history, and read many many papers in CMJ[1] and elsewhere about generative and automatic composition tools such as Emily Howell[2]. I do NOT have a problem with generative, algorithmic and automatic composition in this sense, as an extension of the creative intentions of the human composer, in the right context. See also Autechre[3] for what can be done with Markov chains and good taste. What we are discussing here is the musical equivalent of a dishwasher.

    [1] http://www.computermusicjournal.org/

    [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Cope#Emily_Howell

    [3] http://autechre.ws/

    Addendum: I would highly recommend the Margaret Boden book referenced in the wiki on David Cope/Emily Howell, which is an absolutely fascinating read and was incredibly far-sighted in its enquiries on this topic.

    • jrajav 14 minutes ago

      Can I ask what the specific markers / qualifiers are for you to consider (let's call them) 'classical' generative and algorithmic techniques fair game in creative composition, but LLM agent based techniques not so?

      To me, it seems like the "do it for me" aspect is similar, just at different levels of abstraction.

jhurliman 42 minutes ago

Very cool! I posted my own experiments in this area a few months back, which were an iteration on an existing Ableton MCP. It’s great to see more people experimenting in the spaces of interfacing with complex applications and music production.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46428922

xrd 1 hour ago

Does anyone know of other MCP servers for similar music creative tools? I'm interested in things like sonic-pi, strudel.cc and orcas. But very open to anything. I think there is a good opportunity for kids to learn using these tools, especially if I can wire it into my mycroft.ai/neon device.

bschoepke 3 hours ago

Ever wanted to control Ableton with just your voice? Me too! I made this MCP server so I could just ask Codex to do anything in Ableton Live for me, while I was nap-trapped by my baby.

The chat messages I sent to Codex to make this:

in ableton, make a self reflective song, with audio vocals (via macos say) and chip tunes and 80's drum machines. should be a real edm banger

i want midi for everything but vocals please, with ableton devices. not prerendered audio for instruments

needs some fills

and should hit way harder after "3-2-1 i become the sound"

the vocals are squished too much (read too quickly), give them a little more length

add some dynamics, the song is basically one volume. and some pumping side chain

improve dynamics of the clap, seems a bit flat and indistinguished, want it harder after the 3-2-1 drop

introduce a new element on a new track after the 3-2-1 drop, that comes in but then recedes before the final exit

doesn't seem like the new thing has any notes

the element is a bit muddy/indistinct. perhaps it needs simplification and more space, different instrument choice, i dunno</i>

  • wartywhoa23 2 hours ago

    > Ever wanted to control Ableton with just your voice?

    Never.

    • jrajav 17 minutes ago

      I guess the guidelines don't apply to you, as long as you disagree vehemently enough with the OP's basic intent.

      • wartywhoa23 8 minutes ago

        No amount of guidelines will make me lie in my replies.

  • deng 2 hours ago

    > should be a real edm banger

    I'm afraid Codex ignored that one.

robotswantdata 1 hour ago

If you’ve gone to the trouble of setting up Ableton MCP, you’ve already worked harder than Suno requires to make a banger

  • dyauspitr 1 hour ago

    Honestly, music generation is solved. You don’t have fine control at this point but people are unable to tell the difference anymore. There are tons of YouTube videos with blind tests between real artists and AI and people have no idea.

    • wartywhoa23 11 minutes ago

      The Matrix wants everything solved, doesn't it?

    • siquick 6 minutes ago

      Solved !== Good

markalby 2 hours ago

is this using M4L or the LOM ?