Show HN: Browser Harness – Gives LLM freedom to complete any browser task

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88 points by gregpr07 12 hours ago

Hey HN,

We got tired of browser frameworks restricting the LLM, so we removed the framework and gave the LLM maximum freedom to do whatever it's trained on. We gave the harness the ability to self correct and add new tools if the LLM wants (is pre-trained on) that.

Our Browser Use library is tens of thousands of lines of deterministic heuristics wrapping Chrome (CDP websocket). Element extractors, click helpers, target managemenet (SUPER painful), watchdogs (crash handling, file downloads, alerts), cross origin iframes (if you want to click on an element you have to switch the target first, very anoying), etc.

Watchdogs specifically are extremely painful but required. If Chrome triggers for example a native file popup the agent is just completely stuck. So the two solutions are to: 1. code those heuristics and edge cases away 1 by 1 and prevent them 2. give LLM a tool to handle the edge case

As you can imagine - there are crazy amounts of heuristics like this so you eventually end up with A LOT of tools if you try to go for #2. So you have to make compromises and just code those heuristics away.

BUT if the LLM just "knows" CDP well enough to switch the targets when it encounters a cross origin iframe, dismiss the alert when it appears, write its own click helpers, or upload function, you suddenly don't have to worry about any of those edge cases.

Turns out LLMs know CDP pretty well these days. So we bitter pilled the harness. The concepts that should survive are: - something that holds and keeps CDP websocket alive (deamon) - extremely basic tools (helpers.py) - skill.md that explains how to use it

The new paradigm? SKILL.md + a few python helpers that need to have the ability to change on the fly.

One cool example: We forgot to implement upload_file function. Then mid-task the agent wants to upload a file so it grepped helpers.py, saw nothing, wrote the function itself using raw DOM.setFileInputFiles (which we only noticed that later in a git diff). This was a relly magical moment of how powerful LLMs have become.

Compared to other approaches (Playwright MCP, browser use CLI, agent-browser, chrome devtools MCP): all of them wrap Chrome in a set of predefined functions for the LLM. The worst failure mode is silent. The LLM's click() returns fine so the LLM thinks it clicked, but on this particular site nothing actually happened. It moves on with a broken model of the world. Browser Harness gives the LLM maximum freedom and perfect context for HOW the tools actually work.

Here are a few crazy examples of what browser harness can do: - plays stockfish https://x.com/shawn_pana/status/2046457374467379347 - sets a world record in tetris https://x.com/shawn_pana/status/2047120626994012442 - figures out how to draw a heart with js https://x.com/mamagnus00/status/2046486159992480198?s=20

You can super easily install it by telling claude code: `Set up https://github.com/browser-use/browser-harness for me.`

Repo: https://github.com/browser-use/browser-harness

What would you call this new paradigm? A dialect?

Animats 7 hours ago

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  • LarsenCC 2 hours ago

    Would be crazy if Opus 4.7 let this happen haha

embedding-shape 8 hours ago

> The new paradigm? SKILL.md + a few python helpers that need to have the ability to change on the fly. [...] What would you call this new paradigm? A dialect?

It's called "agentic coding" for all I know, and isn't a new paradigm, the whole purpose with agentic coding is that it uses tools to do their thing, then those tools could be structured as the good old JSON schema tools next to the implemented runtime, or as MCP, or HTTP API or whatever, the "paradigm" is the same: Have a harness, have a LLM, let the harness define tools that the LLM can use those.

  • codethief 7 hours ago

    IIUC the point is that the agent has the ability to modify itself? So one possible term could be "self-evolving" or "self-modifying agent".

    • embedding-shape 7 hours ago

      Any agent that accepts "work in this working directory" (which AFAIK, all of them do) have had this ability, even the initial GPT2/3 experiments around matching LLMs with primitive tool-calling.

      • codethief 5 hours ago

        Fair, so let's do

          s/has the ability to/is meant to
        

        Then again, I don't think your statement is entirely correct: It assumes you've given the agent the permission to edit his source autonomously, which would normally seem unusual for an agent that's just supposed to connect to the browser.

syl5x 9 hours ago

That's pretty good, I've achieved pretty much the same thing using the vercel's agent-browser, but I've tried playwright and it worked easily as good. Its good for scraping, automating stuff in the browser.

  • debarshri 9 hours ago

    I think the usecase here is to go beyond scraping. I think you can use it as a tool for agent harnesses and make it part of a larger workflow.

  • tanishqkanc 18 minutes ago

    You should check out Libretto. It can take the playwright code and turn it into a script you can deploy

_pdp_ 4 hours ago

> What would you call this new paradigm?

I call it Terms of Service Violation. :)

  • LarsenCC 2 hours ago

    Browsers don't sign ToS, users do. Use it with care.

amelius 8 hours ago

I was wondering when someone would finally build this.

Anyway, of course this will be superseded by a harness that provides freedom to complete any task within the OS.

  • reaganhsu 8 hours ago

    it will be crazy when someone builds this

  • npodbielski 6 hours ago

    What about security? What if it goes of the rails and remove /root I.e.? Yes that would be crazy because only madman would do that.

    Unless it would be airgapped no internet access machine with just monitor I.e.

SomewhatLikely 8 hours ago

If I'm understanding correctly, this might be the first example of just-in-time agentic coding that I've come across.

  • LarsenCC 2 hours ago

    Interesting way to put it. Maybe it is.

aussieguy1234 1 hour ago

Remote debugging will trigger bot detection. So this won't work for use cases like booking a flight/hotel on the major platforms.

  • tanishqkanc 19 minutes ago

    i dont think its detectable if done well. We’ve built involved automations with no problems. i used libretto not browserbase tho

bdcravens 4 hours ago

> Paste into Claude Code or Codex:

> Set up https://github.com/browser-use/browser-harness for me.

> Read `install.md` first to install and connect this repo to my real browser. Then read `SKILL.md` for normal usage. Always read `helpers.py` because that is where the functions are. When you open a setup or verification tab, activate it so I can see the active browser tab. After it is installed, open this repository in my browser and, if I am logged in to GitHub, ask me whether you should star it for me as a quick demo that the interaction works — only click the star if I say yes. If I am not logged in, just go to browser-use.com.

Is the the new "curl {url} | sh"?

  • jadbox 1 hour ago

    It is pretty neat, but I'm concerned by just how long and complex the actual install.md instructions are. I would have preferred a real installer to this complex web of instructions + AI trying to interpret the instructions to install. I think I would be more accepting if the install.md script was maybe less than half its current size/complexity.

  • taikon 39 minutes ago

    I thought browser-use was janky and barely worked? Or was that fixed from 1-2 years ago?

Amekedl 9 hours ago

I’d call it “open washing”, but it looks cool. Good luck with it

  • LarsenCC 8 hours ago

    Curious why? You can just take this and run locally or deploy anywhere you'd like with any provider agent provider.

mattaustin 8 hours ago

I submitted a remote code execution to the browser-use about 40 days ago. GHSA-r2x7-6hq9-qp7v I am a bit stunned by the lack of response. Any safety concerns in this project?

mvelbaum 9 hours ago

Sawyer Hood's dev-browser[0] allows the browser to write playwright JS code directly. Do you have cases where his approach fails and yours works?

[0] https://github.com/SawyerHood/dev-browser

  • LarsenCC 8 hours ago

    PW is usually easier to detect. Using raw CDP is in our opinion much better for this.

    • jstanley 7 hours ago

      We published a survey of stealth browsers just yesterday https://botforensics.com/blog/stealth-browser-survey-april-2...

      There's still plenty that Browser-Use could improve in terms of stealthiness.

      We didn't detect it using CDP (good!) but can still detect that it is Browser-Use.

      • kajman 7 hours ago

        This is an advertisement that looks like a technical blogpost for a moment.

    • mvelbaum 6 hours ago

      So only a stealth advantage?

joemazerino 52 minutes ago

Browser-use is incredible. Solving captchas via proxy is a wild experience when steering in the browser.

One issue I have is the pricing. The API is straightforward and easy to deploy, but it seems the API is restricted to a paid tier. Using the inline agent sessions seems possible via the free plan.

Happy to accept corrections if I'm wrong.

esafak 7 hours ago

1. Can you elaborate on the self healing?

2. Can you publish a tabular comparison on your README?

3. What information gets sent to your API server?

I'm struggling to see why I should use this over agent-browser; I have not yet run into the "cross origin iframes" problem. Is this more for the 'claw crowd?

  • LarsenCC 2 hours ago

    1. Self healing means that it detects it needs some new helper function to complete a task. So, it adds it by itself while doing the task. 2. Will consider yes. 3. Nothing. Only if you decide to use remote browsers, we use the API Key to create one for you

doublerabbit 9 hours ago

And that's how I woke up with an LLM roleplaying with itself while looking at porn.