CharlieDigital 3 hours ago
    > If Lockheed dedicates the entire Troy, Alabama line exclusively to JASSM-ER and produces zero LRASM anti-ship missiles, the maximum rate is 860 per year. That drops the timeline to 2.2 years, but it means the Navy gets zero of the anti-ship missiles it would need for a Taiwan contingency.

China wins by literally doing nothing.

US losing on manufacturing, automobiles, renewables, human talent, global good will, etc.

  • someguydave 2 hours ago

    Yeah but the upside is that the elderly got to keep most of the federal tax revenue

    • recursivedoubts 2 hours ago

      i don't think this has much to do with the elderly

      • CharlieDigital 1 hour ago

        It certainly does.

        https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2024/04/09/age-generati...

            > About two-thirds of voters ages 18 to 24 (66%) associate with the Democratic Party, compared with 34% who align with the GOP.
            > About six-in-ten voters 80 and older (58%) identify with or lean toward the GOP, while 39% associate with the Democratic Party.
        

        https://usafacts.org/articles/how-many-americans-vote-and-ho...

            > How does voting behavior differ by age?
            > In 2024, 47.7% of citizens between the ages of 18 and 24 voted, compared to 60.2% of 25- to 44-year-olds, 70.0% of 45- to 64-year-olds, and 74.7% of people 65 and older.
        

        Older voters have higher turnout and skew heavily Republican.

maratc 3 hours ago
    > By September 2016, Lockheed Martin had delivered 2,000 total JASSMs [...] to the USAF. [0]

So probably another 1k plus all production of the last 10 years is all that's left in stock.

Nothing to see here, moving along.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AGM-158_JASSM

  • AnimalMuppet 2 hours ago

    More: They produce 396 a year when they already have 20 times that number in stock. If they don't have 20 times that number in stock, can they produce more per year? As CharlieDigital noted, yes, they can, though at the price of lower or no production of LRASM missiles.

juancn 2 hours ago

The Chinese YKJ-1000 is reported to cost $99000 per unit, is hypersonic and has a range of ~1300 KM.

It's looking like the US needs some disruption on their armament suppliers, kinda what SpaceX did for space launches.

Compare that to the 1.5M each of the JASSM cost.

  • hagbard_c 1 hour ago

    Thus far Chinese weaponry has not shown to be as effective as promised. Maybe this YKJ-1000 is the exception, maybe it is not. Maybe exported versions of the weaponry have been crippled in some way, maybe not. The future will tell. The future, also, which I expect to bring down the price of western weaponry, probably not as low as the Chinese equivalents but closer to those than to those demanded by the old defence dinosaurs.

romperstomper 1 hour ago

I guess they got rid of bunch of rockets with near expiration date

zulux 2 hours ago

Good. They were sunk costs.

This opens it up for newer ideas - the age of hideously expensive missiles is over.

  • whynotmaybe 2 hours ago

    Only if you're a nation with few resources or in emergency situation.

    Creativity in the US military as always been associated with a lot of $ for contract with the private sectors.

    Yes, many countries are now using cheap drones to destroy targets but I'm not sure the US military has the mentality to adapt to this situation because they're not "really" at war.

    How would highly ranked personnel react to the idea of a 400$ drone, cheaper than an AR15, when they usually discuss budgets about aircraft carriers (or a few 100$million F35) ?

    I wonder how many potential contractors would add a 0 to the price just to be taken seriously.

    • wildzzz 2 hours ago

      They'd just add a zero to the quantity to be delivered instead.

      • jerlam 1 hour ago

        Drones are bullets, not delivery systems like aircraft carriers and machine guns.

        The US military already deploys a copy of the Iranian Shahed drone. They aren't $400 but the Shahed isn't that cheap either.

4fterd4rk 3 hours ago

I'm not saying the Trump administration is compromised/influenced/managed by Russia but if they were I don't see what they'd be doing differently.

  • nprz 3 hours ago

    Yes, it was Putin that was walking into DC every other month demanding the US strike Iran...

  • vorpalhex 3 hours ago

    Then taking down the Maduro regime and the Iranians who are both Russian allies, arming Ukraine, and enabling out-of-theater sinking of Russian ships?

    • stldev 3 hours ago

      Madurismo without Maduro.

      Ukraine? Sure, after extorting them for campaign help (minerals later) while Russians murdered their families.

      And we're not "enabling" the sinking of any Russian ships.

      • vorpalhex 52 minutes ago

        Venezuela has bulk freed their political prisoners and is on track to hold elections.

        And I think you will find Ukraine lacks the necessary satellite constellations to enable very long distance corrected boat strikes. Yet strangely Ukraine has suddenly been successfukly performing trajectory corrected boat strikes.. at very long distances.. Seemingly launched from not Ukraine.

        Or maybe Russian oil terminals just keep magically catching fire... along with their ships.. You know, the ones the US didn't interdict.

        Could be. Could be.

    • CharlieDigital 1 hour ago
          > ...and the Iranians
      

      Russia is playing both sides of this. They're able to continue to deepen the dependency precisely because Iran has few allies while also raising the price of crude oil to enrich their coffers. A few Iranian lives are nothing to them. All you have to do is to look at the other side of this: if Iran were to open up and be integrated into the world, who loses? Russia.

          > ...arming Ukraine,
      

      It certainly appears that you've been in a bunker.

      https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/what-to-know-about-trumps...

          > The White House said that the U.S. is "pausing and reviewing" its Ukraine aid to "ensure that it is contributing to a solution." The order will remain in effect until Trump determines that Ukraine has demonstrated a commitment to peace negotiations with Russia.
          > 
          > The decision comes days after an explosive meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, in which Trump and U.S. Vice President JD Vance said that Ukraine's leader hasn't expressed sufficient gratitude for American support. 
      

      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/mar/04/us-military-ai...

          > The Trump administration has suspended delivery of all US military aid to Ukraine, blocking billions in crucial shipments, as the White House piles pressure on Kyiv to sue for peace with Vladimir Putin.
      

      https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/04/europe/russia-ukraine-militar...

          > Russia welcomes Trump’s cut to Ukraine’s military aid
      • vorpalhex 58 minutes ago

        Out of $188B of authorized aid for Ukraine, $109B has been disbursed incl 2025/2026 deliveries, with an additional $72B continuing to be disbursed per original timeline.

        https://www.cfr.org/articles/how-much-us-aid-going-ukraine

        You have to get at least the most basic facts correct. If you get even those wrong, you need to throw out your entire worldview and the sources that generated that worldview and start over.