srean an hour ago

Count of Monte Cristo is also semi fictional.

A few month's ago I started reading Three Musketeers again. I had forgotten how relentless and fast moving it is. Moving from one action set piece to the next from beginning to end. It is almost overpowering, literally had to catch my breadth before turning a page.

I had forgotten how it was when I had read it as a kid.

  • chr-s 11 minutes ago

    I read both of these in the last year and they're both phenomenal. I'm working my way through the classics, there's a reason they've survived centuries.

    Actually, I listened to a dramatization of The Three Musketeers and I was struck by how _funny_ it is. The 4-way duel at the beginning is hilarious and Aramis' and Porthos' respective romantic escapades give great comic relief to what is otherwise an action packed adventure.

    The Count of Monte Cristo is an investment, and the middle third drags, but it's necessary to set up the final third, which is so rewarding for the reader. It's the best tale of revenge and redemption I've ever read.

brightball 2 hours ago

Hold on…that was an entirely fictional story?

Is there some part of it that was based on real people?

  • rags2riches 2 hours ago

    Some Swedes will be delighted to learn that not only was there a historical d'Artagnan, but also a real life cardinal named Mazarin. But I have yet to find a historical person named Loranga.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loranga,_Masarin_och_Dartanjan...

    • Bayart an hour ago

      There were in fact two Mazarin cardinals. The one people know about, who happened to be one of the major statesmen in Europe at the time, and his brother who was notoriously useless.

      • Ylpertnodi an hour ago

        > his brother who was notoriously useless.

        So, he became a priest? (Father Ted [a literary classic] reference)

        • throw0101d 29 minutes ago

          > So, he became a priest? (Father Ted [a literary classic] reference)

          Galileo had (illegitimate) daughters but was unable to find husbands for them, so their remaining options were to become nuns. One seems to have quite brilliant, but the other a drunk:

          * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo%27s_Daughter

          Back in the day the Church was the social safety net of society, so many folks ended up in monasteries as a form of charity for folks that would perhaps otherwise would have no other way to support themselves.

  • bena 2 hours ago

    Same here. I thought it was completely fictional.

    So, I immediately looked it up. There was a real d'Artagnan, he was kind of a big deal, so Dumas wrote some stories based on a fictionalized version of the real d'Artagnan.

ourmandave 2 hours ago

Time for the next installment of the Pirates of the Caribbean.

Jack Sparrow and/vs/saves the 3 Musketeers.

schmookeeg 2 hours ago

One of my favorite books -- I had no idea there was a real-life inspiration for it (Balzampleu!) This will get me to re-read it, it's been too long. :)

  • cholantesh 2 hours ago

    I was aware that Aramis and of course the various royals and aristocrats were real, but not the individual soldiers. Loved this novel growing, seems like the Count of Monte Cristo is seen as more 'serious' literature, but the Three Musketeers will always have a special place in my mind.

    • kergonath an hour ago

      > I was aware that Aramis and of course the various royals and aristocrats were real

      It's more that their names were real, but their descriptions and their actions in the books are almost entirely fictional.

ibero an hour ago

there’s no hard evidence here. the “99%” referenced in the article is someone’s personal subjective confidence it’s him. body buried under church is not particularly eventful news as it stands.

lostlogin 2 hours ago

That sounds like someone just decided to have a dig around inside the church.