uxhacker 4 hours ago

So there are now 55000 and 1 Asian elephants*. I don’t understand the newsworthiness of having an extra Asian elephant joining the other 15000 Asian elephants in captivity.

Wild Asian elephants roam between 100km2 to 1500km2. This elephant will spend a life confined to just how many square km’s?

  • assaddayinh 4 hours ago

    The conquest for utopian perfection is the enemy of all good things. In the wild she would be poached, hunted and ground dow into medieval medicine, while contained to ever more little islands of wild.

    Please god free us from those who want to burn the bakery, because they think tomorrow it will rain manna from the heavens. No curse us greater then a rampant idealist, unwilling to sense reality.

    PS: Why not have pragmatic solutions where there are elephant days where the herd to roam in a park?

    • cultofmetatron an hour ago

      zoos and aquariums serve a very vital purpose. most people only care about these animals because they can go SEE them alive. documentaries help but nothing beats getting a captive people into a room to see a wild animal and then bamboozling them with propaganda about how important it is to preserve these animals. Its the reason we have funding to keep these creatures alive in the wild at all.

      if all zoos and aquariums were shut down, public concern about the environment would slowly drift to nothing within 2 generations.

    • riedel 3 hours ago

      While I totally agree, the underlying conflict is that Zoos over use the argument of preservation these days. On the other end they certainly have the need to stay entertainment venues, a conflict which they seldomly address.

      Recently there was a obviously necessary mass culling of baboons in the Nuremberg zoo which shows some of the controversy [1]

      [1] https://www.greenmemag.com/animals/the-nuremberg-zoo-controv...

      • assaddayinh 3 hours ago

        They could have hunting preserves, basically areas sharedby predators and prey similar to nature as enrichment, but that would be cruelty for the cityZens.

        Im argueing against nature preserves in poorer countries, where western nations deluded citizens pay to keep a piece of nature which are basically mirages of "intactness" in economic good times, vanishing from the earth entirely in economic bad times. Which the very same proponents usually argue for with degrowth arguments.

    • uxhacker 2 hours ago

      So it will cost at least 100,000 usd to keep this poor elephant confined in a zoo in the US versus about 15,000 in a wild sanctuary in Thailand.

      In the wild sanctuary it will have space to roam.

Valodim 4 hours ago

> [this individual] will help strengthen the genetic diversity of the Asian elephant population in North America and around the world.

I'm happy for them that there is now a calf after a long time, but this sentence doesn't read as hopeful as the author probably intended

assimpleaspossi 2 hours ago

There have been seven Asian elephants born at the St Louis Zoo since 1992.

downboots 8 hours ago

At last someone addresses it

  • tantalor 8 hours ago

    Ssshhh we don't talk about it

    • usagisushi 3 hours ago

      There is room for the elephant.