I'm starting to understand that most earnest users of glitch have no idea the extent to which it enabled and was abused to do shitty things -despite the commendable efforts of everyone there.
Apparently the free ephemeral apps were (1) free, (2) easy to make and easy to make many of, and (3) hosted on infrastructure that targets tended to trust.
Low code tool plus hosting platform, and also the final form of Fog Creek which you may have heard about from Joel on Software blog posts if you read tech blogs 15 years ago
I would like to report an instance of heavy Baader-Meinhof as just yesterday I randomly wondered how many cuils are actually genuinely achievable in simple text and it's two at most IMO.
Unfortunately users don't pay the bills - customers do.
For VC funded startups, the VC is the customer. Thus the company optimizes for customer satisfaction, not user satisfaction.
The cognitive dissonance necessary for users to believe they are customers, while at the same time believing the product should be free (or free adjacent) is impressive.
Clearly once customers no longer fund the company, the company closes. And the free users will complain.
Paying for a product does not guarantee it will survive. But not paying pretty much guarantees that the good times can't last forever. (Rejoice if you see ads, then at least you're being monetized.)
Sad to see Glitch go, but there wasn't a _business_ there. I had a bunch of cool static HTML/JS tools there, but never gave them a penny. It couldn't go on forever. So long and thanks for all the fish!
I moved my tools to a repo and Github Pages. Slower iteration speed obviously (~1 minutes from pushing code to showing up on Pages), but it is working well for me. I can edit locally or directly in the repo on github.com (pressing `.` in a repo opens it in a full online VS Code) from anywhere.
this is so sad...
I remember lots of very good creative art works are deployed there.
but it seems that people including myself are moving towards netlify and cloudflare
>It’s easy to create value when you don’t have values.
Damn that hit hard
Recent thread https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44064230
I'm starting to understand that most earnest users of glitch have no idea the extent to which it enabled and was abused to do shitty things -despite the commendable efforts of everyone there.
Since sibling commenters asked—the abuse mainly involved a heckuva lot of phishing, last I heard; for example:
https://threatpost.com/spear-phishing-exploits-glitch-steal-...
https://www.netskope.com/blog/glitch-hosted-phishing-uses-te...
Apparently the free ephemeral apps were (1) free, (2) easy to make and easy to make many of, and (3) hosted on infrastructure that targets tended to trust.
I'm out of the loop... what shitty things?
I'll do you one better: WTH is/was Glitch? I think I'm so far out of the loop I've reached lagrange point 2.
Low code tool plus hosting platform, and also the final form of Fog Creek which you may have heard about from Joel on Software blog posts if you read tech blogs 15 years ago
It was a low-code "make your own website" platform. The sort of thing that was popular before myspace/facebook/medium style walled gardens took over.
Fastly bought it because they were/are desperate to pivot away from CDN, since CDN has negative margins.
How many cuils are we talking about?
I would like to report an instance of heavy Baader-Meinhof as just yesterday I randomly wondered how many cuils are actually genuinely achievable in simple text and it's two at most IMO.
any good look at that side of it?
In the article I read the passion of a user.
Unfortunately users don't pay the bills - customers do.
For VC funded startups, the VC is the customer. Thus the company optimizes for customer satisfaction, not user satisfaction.
The cognitive dissonance necessary for users to believe they are customers, while at the same time believing the product should be free (or free adjacent) is impressive.
Clearly once customers no longer fund the company, the company closes. And the free users will complain.
Paying for a product does not guarantee it will survive. But not paying pretty much guarantees that the good times can't last forever. (Rejoice if you see ads, then at least you're being monetized.)
Why did they buy it in the first place, then?
I have no idea why FF bought it. There are lots of reasons why things get aquire, and it seemed like a good idea at the time.
That's somewhat irrelevant though. Clearly it couldn't survive forever losing money.
Sad to see Glitch go, but there wasn't a _business_ there. I had a bunch of cool static HTML/JS tools there, but never gave them a penny. It couldn't go on forever. So long and thanks for all the fish!
I moved my tools to a repo and Github Pages. Slower iteration speed obviously (~1 minutes from pushing code to showing up on Pages), but it is working well for me. I can edit locally or directly in the repo on github.com (pressing `.` in a repo opens it in a full online VS Code) from anywhere.
https://pseudosavant.github.io/ps-web-tools/
this is so sad... I remember lots of very good creative art works are deployed there. but it seems that people including myself are moving towards netlify and cloudflare