points by nutanc 1 year ago

This is awesome. I have been telling that social media is like smoking. When cigarettes came, even doctors were advertising the benefits of cigarettes. Now we know the harmful effects. Same is the case with social media. We just dont know they harmful effects completely yet.

Ban this. I am addicted and can't stop. Or put a warning on social media apps like they do on cigarette packets. Using this app maybe harmful for your mental health.

amelius 1 year ago

No we need to kill the advertisement based monetization model, so there is no incentive to produce addictive content.

  • Jyaif 1 year ago

    If mastodon was used by teens, it would have all the same problems.

    Advertisment is not the problem here.

    • amelius 1 year ago

      Right now this is perhaps true, because mastodon has to compete with commercial social media.

    • kalaksi 1 year ago

      Mastodon doesn't have the incentive to try to spy on everybody and try to get everybody hooked by any means necessary.

    • protocolture 1 year ago

      Masto has no social graph. Its just like IRC and PHP forums that many of us here used as teens.

  • childintime 1 year ago

    We all want this regardless. Yet we don't. We also want innovation, and that means we have to vote by avoiding the amount of shit coming down the pipe. So for starters I use an ad-blocker. But platforms will still strangle free speech because of their business model acting out.

    I think for starters we should have competition, therefore mandate federation between platforms. No big winner-takes-all tech monopolies. But the USA doesn't want to give up the profit, nor the power that comes with it, to own the world.

    Perhaps as an example, Google performs an auction in the milliseconds before serving up ads. So it's possible.

    In the end platforms will integrate an AI buddy that will come to know us even better, and that represents our ways. Of course we'll want that, but please, federate.

  • The_Colonel 1 year ago

    Advertising is one of the less harmful monetization models out there, especially for kids. YouTubers soliciting donations, selling merchandise etc. are praying on young kids. If you take away advertising, these more direct methods will be used more heavily.

    • amelius 1 year ago

      > Advertising is one of the less harmful monetization models out there, especially for kids.

      No, because it incentivizes the addictive content.

      > YouTubers soliciting donations, selling merchandise etc. are preying on young kids.

      That's a different issue, and already happening. It should be banned too.

      • The_Colonel 1 year ago

        > That's a different issue, and already happening. It should be banned too.

        There's basically no way to ban this (and advertising) without banning social media.

johnisgood 1 year ago

You can put a warning everywhere, because everything or anything may be harmful to your mental health. sighs

"This is why we can't have nice things".

  • nutanc 1 year ago

    You are right. The wording was wrong. It should have been, "The usage of this app will be harmful for your mental health".

    • johnisgood 1 year ago

      I do not disagree with that.

cynicalsecurity 1 year ago

This is an attack on freedom.

  • _Algernon_ 1 year ago

    I don't know what to tell you... Minors are supposed to lack freedom compared to adults in a society.

    • johnny22 1 year ago

      no, it's OUR freedoms that are being messed with, not just the kids.

    • immibis 1 year ago

      How do you think social media is going to verify that you're not a minor?

  • hello_moto 1 year ago

    Let kids have guns, can drink booze, and smoke too while we're at it?

  • dkdbejwi383 1 year ago

    I mean you could make an argument that outlawing murder is also an attack on freedom. That doesn't mean it isn't a silly argument however.

  • lm28469 1 year ago

    To be fair every single law in the world is an attack on freedom if you're a 5 IQ freedom absolutist.

    You can't drive a car without headlights, you can't drive a car without seatbelts, you can't kill your neighbours if he fucks your wife, you can't open a shop selling BBQ dog ribs... life is so unfair =(

maxehmookau 1 year ago

Hard agree. It's our generation's smoking. Zuckerberg's recent PR glow-up is just this generation's Marlboro man. An acceptable face on something much more sinister.