points by mroman 17 years ago

That journalist is an arrogant and ignorant asshole, he reaches conclusions - that he then states as if they were fact - about Reiser's personality as if he were a trained psychologist/psychiatrist, and as if he has studied and analyzed the subject.

Every bone in my body wants to projectile vomit upon reading that crud.

I find it to be just another case of math envy, the imbecile KNOWS that he could never in a million years achieve 1% of what Reiser has achieved, however Reiser is now a convicted murderer, thus the idiot can now feel better about himself, and hurl contempt and scorn on Reiser.

I also find the general tone of the article to be awful insidious.

bgutierrez 17 years ago

Contempt and scorn are appropriate feelings to have for murderers.

I thought this article was interesting because the author had spent a lot of time watching Reiser in court and might be speaking some truth about Reiser's personality.

Is there anyone here that knew Reiser more intimately than this journalist, and could give us some feedback?

  • omouse 17 years ago

    "Contempt and scorn are appropriate feelings to have for murderers."

    Oh really? What about those trained to kill? Such as those in the military?

    This is a tangent, but I'm curious...

    • bgutierrez 17 years ago

      The definition of murder as "the unlawfully killing of a human with malice aforethought" is a good one that applies well to Hans Reiser and shows the importance of motivation in determining whether or not someone is a criminal.

      When soldiers are learning to kill an enemy that may not even exist, they have very different motivations when compared to someone that is planning to kill a personal enemy.

      I believe that both individuals and nations have the right of self-defense, so I don't hold contempt for anyone that is learning to kill in order to defend himself or the people he has a responsibility to defend.

      • omouse 17 years ago

        Hmm. That is a good point.

        • bgutierrez 17 years ago

          Thanks. Your question made me really think.

  • mroman 17 years ago

    I find the motivation behind his contempt and scorn to be not that of someone who despises a murderer, but that of someone who is envious of someone's superior intellect.

    Notice how he attempts to belittle Reiser, how he throws in the "genius" word . . .

    I have been the focus of that sort of envy before, and it is written ALL over that nitwit's piece.

    He's pathetic.

    • prospero 17 years ago

      Assuming some basic threshold of intelligence, it's much more important to most people how pleasant someone is to be around than how smart they are. If you do fit into this "antisocial genius" archetype (which you're tossing around every bit as loosely as the author of the article), chances are good that how people treat you has nothing to do with envy, and everything to do with how you treat them.

      Just saying, is all.

      • mroman 17 years ago

        Interesting that you would state that I am "tossing around" an "'antisocial genius' archetype" "every bit as loosely as the author of the article" . . . first off, WHAT "'antisocial genius' archetype"? . . . (there someone goes again, playing armchair psych, which has been my point all along) second of all, just WHERE did you get this "'antisocial genius' archetype" from in my posts? Serious. Please quote me. Please.

        You make no sense whatsoever dude.

        • prospero 17 years ago

          [The author is] someone who is envious of someone's superior intellect . . . I have been the focus of that sort of envy before

          As to the antisocial bit, I'm not going to quote your posts in their entirety, but that's a pretty big chip you've got on your shoulder, man.

          • mroman 17 years ago

            Yeah ok man, I have a chip on my shoulder for stating what I perceive and asking that you quote me after you replied to my post as if it stated something that it simply did not state.

            Come on bud, get real.

            • prospero 17 years ago
                I have taken liberties
                with your words
                that were on
                the internet
              
                and which
                you were probably
                writing
                for a receptive audience
              
                forgive me
                they were delicious
                so righteous
                and so vehement
              • mroman 17 years ago

                Thanks for the comedy relief

                • prospero 17 years ago

                  Okay, I'm sorry, really. I made what I thought (and still think) is an accurate synopsis of your posts. You disagree, and that's fine.

                  I don't think any further progress is going to be made here.

                  • mroman 17 years ago

                    You still haven't quoted me. It all comes down to that: you insist that my posts state something they do not, and I insist that you back up what you are saying by quoting my posts.

                    Now, if I had MEANT (and yet not precisely written) what you insist I stated, I would say so, and debate my point based on that. That, however, wasn't the case, and I HATE IT when people put words in my mouth (or writing) I can't fn stand it, and I think you noticed, and simply baited me.

                    You really come off like an MBA or some other type of suit clad miscreant - never thought I would run into your type of reaction on a forum for HACKERS. It is rather ironic that yours is basically the type of reaction I have gotten from the crowd at work that I made reference to earlier.

                    • pg 17 years ago

                      Come on, you two, please stop baiting and shouting respectively.

                      • mroman 17 years ago

                        Ok, will do. Sorry.

                      • prospero 17 years ago

                        I honestly never meant for this to be contentious. Apologies all around.

jcl 17 years ago

The article tells us nothing new about Reiser except that the author interviewed him and didn't like him very much. The author even tells us why he wrote it:

"I had written a book, and his story was crucial to it, but the book was really about me."

He interviewed Reiser purely for material for his book about what he thinks of murderers (spoiler: murderers are bad). Given this, it's not surprising that he would sell a chapter to Salon for money and publicity. The article is not journalism, it's part of an autobiography largely unrelated to Reiser that nevertheless capitalizes on the publicity surrounding his trial.

logjam 17 years ago

Hey, I hear Mussolini made the trains run on time.

Hans Reiser is merely a wife-beater, liar, sociopath, and murderer. He's completely worthy of the writer's utter contempt and scorn.

  • mroman 17 years ago

    I will dispute the sociopath observation. Even if you happen to be a trained mental health care professional, you have not sufficiently observed and analyzed the subject in question.

    That really gets under my skin, people who play armchair psychologist/psychiatrist. Why? Because I have been victimized at work (back when I used to be an employee) by that very same type of ignorant joker.

    "Oh, he has PERSONALITY problems."

    RIGHT, I have PERSONALITY PROBLEMS, simply because I am not a lying, cheating, backstabbing, envious little slacker like the majority of the sheeple at the office.

    Sigh.

    Ok, I admit I have become emotional about this, but my original point still stands: non mental health care professionals have NO business voicing "diagnosis" about ANYONE'S mental health (or lack thereof)

    • MaysonL 17 years ago

      I call bullshit: this is like saying that people who don't have teaching credentials have no business teaching anyone anything, or without barber's licenses cutting hair, or programmer's licenses writing code.

      Note the experience of the psychologist who tried the experiment of getting himself committed by impersonating a schizophrenic to doctors at the ER, who then took quite a while to get released: all the patients knew he was sane, but the doctors, once he had been labelled, were very hard to convince otherwise.

      • rms 17 years ago

        Any article about that psychologist who got himself committed? Sounds interesting.

      • mroman 17 years ago

        I was obviously not talking about credentials (do quote me if I did please) I was talking about having the KNOWLEDGE, TRAINING, AND SKILL required to diagnose a human's mind.

        And your comparisons are quite amusing, even if simple . . . you went from teaching, to cutting hair, and finally to programming . . . and this is in a discussion revolving around mental health care. Interesting, considering that there is simply no comparison between any of the four activities.

        How dare you equate programming to cutting hair.

        EDIT: before you even go there, the word "professional" does not only apply to those with credentials.