points by tptacek 8 years ago

These are mostly bad examples, and pretty much none of them are examples of the phenomenon being talked about on this particular subthread:

1. Keeper is suing Dan Goodin, a reporter, for (I think?) defamation. (Keeper is evil and you should never use them, but they're not pursuing the researcher under CFAA or DMCA).

2. Chris Vickery found a database backup of a whole company, analyzed it and found that they were shady, and published directly from the database backup. That's not really vulnerability research, and is a bit akin to finding a vulnerability and then using it to dump an account table to Pastebin.

3. PwC C&D'd (but didn't sue) a firm called ESNC. The software ESNC was testing was available only under an NDA license; I assume ENSC got access transitively through a client. This happens a lot in enterprise pentesting. ESNC published anyways, and nothing happened.

4. DJI rescinded KF's authorization to continue testing when he refused to accept the terms of a bounty (which included both disclosure limitations [which may or may not have been reasonable] and a promise not to do post-compromise pivoting [which is entirely DJI's prerogative]). KF rejects the bounty terms, and DJI legal gets involved and demands that he delete any DJI IP or secrets he's taken. This is unfriendly, but not a lawsuit.

jessaustin 8 years ago

We're talking about the threat of lawsuits, right? Can we be so sure that the word "lawsuit" was never mentioned in any of those discussions?

  • tptacek 8 years ago

    The predicate at the root of this thread is "starting to file lawsuits or take legal action", against researchers.

    Maybe a better way to put it: it's hard to see how any of the examples in this article would be addressed by Dropbox's VDP.

    • monocasa 8 years ago

      That's a big leap.

      Given the rather asymmetric nature of the power in these interactions, even something as simple as just being responded to with a legal letterhead rather than an email from the security department has a stifling effect I'd argue.

      • tptacek 8 years ago

        Which example from that article would be addressed by Dropbox's VDP?